The MSM have been found wanting; they have been pushers for the climate alarmists and, although they have also been pushed by the climate sceptics/realists, they ignored the realists and have not given a balanced picture of the media.
Seeing No Evil On Climate-Gate
The shameless denial with which major newspapers and networks have treated "Climategate" layers even more scandal on top of the original one: Mainstream media now co-conspirators with scientific hacks and big government.
The evolution of America's dominant media from guardians of our freedoms to enablers of government growth has been a decades-long story, their biases copiously chronicled.
But their response to the scientific scandal of the century, since it broke a week and a half ago, bids to become known as history's great unmasking of these supposedly independent journalists.
MediaGate-1 http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=513989
Media missing the Plot on Climate-Gate: It’s the Fraud, Stupid!
by Christopher C. Horner
To the credit of the New York Times, Associated Press and Washington Post — reliable outlets for promoting global warming alarmism, protecting those who craft it and marginalizing those who point out its weaknesses and excesses — they all ran stories in the past 48 hours addressing the documents somehow obtained from the computers of a UK university serving as the warming movement and industry’s Mother Ship. My great surprise is even greater because these outlets have demonstrated a pattern of only giving ink to embarrassing controversies after a week or so, once it appears that damage control is needed and the alarmists have gotten their story straight.
Yet the media have defined the story down, focusing on sideshow issues such as conspiring or hateful commentary about those who cause problems for the authors. Think of the wisdom of that approach: whose emails do not somewhere include such things? Surely this will also be proved with more emails stolen from skeptics’ computers, dispatching the story with an “everybody does it” narrative that entirely elides the meaning of the far more important admissions. Heck, Greenpeace used to peddle emails taken from my trash to the press, and got the Guardian and others to excerpt sections, out of context, with phony context padded around them and without calling me before running their “story”. That’s how they roll. They’ve no room for outrage. Still, that poses no resemblance to what’s going on now.
How it is possible that these media outlets’ regular “issue” reporters do not recognize the import of the fraud admitted to in the emails which, broadly, have been acknowledged as genuine?
MediaGate-2 http://biggovernment.com/2009/11/23/media-missing-the-plot-on-climate-gate-its-the-fraud-stupid/
Climategate: how the MSM reported the greatest scandal in modern science
James Delingpole lists how MSM have (mis)reported the ClimateGate affair and then adds:
What it also demonstrates – as my dear chum Dan Hannan so frequently and rightly argues – is the growing power of the Blogosphere and the decreasing relevance of the Mainstream Media (MSM).
But in the case of “Climate Change”, the MSM has been caught with its trousers down. The reason it has been so ill-equipped to report on this scandal is because almost all of its Environmental Correspondents and Environmental Editors are parti pris members of the Climate-Fear Promotion lobby. Most of their contacts (and information sources) work for biased lobby groups like Greenpeace and the WWF, or conspicuously pro-AGW government departments and Quangos such as the Carbon Trust. How can they bring themselves to report on skullduggery at Hadley Centre when the scientists involved are the very ones whose work they have done most to champion and whose pro-AGW views they share?
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100017451/climategate-how-the-msm-reported-the-greatest-scandal-in-modern-science/
The Rudd government lied and lied to gain power and then his lurching from disaster to disaster was so bad that his party axed him. Julia Gillard succeeded and since has lurched from disaster to disaster and lied and lied. Present and past lurches and lies will be recorded here
Wednesday, December 2, 2009
Tuesday, December 1, 2009
Inflation hits the 12 days of Christmas!
12 Days of Christmas' Items' Cost Would Top $87,000
Monday, November 30, 2009
By Dan Nephin, Associated Press
Pittsburgh (AP) - Making one's true love happy will cost a whopping $87,403 this year, a minuscule increase from last year, according to the latest cost analysis of the items in the carol "The Twelve Days of Christmas."
That's the grand total for the single partridge in a pear tree to the 12 drummers drumming, purchased repeatedly as the song suggests, according to the annual "Christmas Price Index" compiled by PNC Wealth Management. The price is up a mere $794, or less than 1 percent, from $86,609 last year.
The cost of buying each item just once is increasing this year to $21,466, up 1.8 percent from last year's $21,081.
Jim Dunigan, managing executive of investment for PNC Wealth Management, which has been calculating the cost of Christmas since 1984, attributed the modest increase to lower energy costs and fewer wage increases.
It's the smallest increase since 2002, when the cost actually decreased, according to PNC.
The main driver behind the higher cost is that the price of gold has increased 43 percent, bringing the five gold rings up $150 to $500.
Although wage increases were modest, nine ladies dancing, at $5,473 per performance, is the costliest item, surpassing the that of any of the material goods.
The most expensive goods are the seven swans a-swimming at $5,250, but their cost decreased 6.3 percent from last year's $5,600. Dunigan said their cost tends to be the most volatile because of supply and demand; they were up 33 percent last year over 2007.
Costs for the 10 lords a-leaping ($4,414 per performance), 11 pipers piping ($2,285 per performance) and 12 drummers drumming ($2,475 per performance) remained the same as last year. Dunigan says that reflects the labor market in which the unemployment rate rose to near 10 percent after sitting below 5 percent for much of the decade.
And for those who would shop online, a word of caution.
PNC says you'll pay $31,435, which is down from last year's online price, but still about $10,000 more than in the traditional index.
"In general, Internet prices are higher than their non-Internet counterparts because of shipping costs for birds and the convenience factor of shopping online," Dunigan said.
PNC Financial Services Group Inc. checks jewelry stores, dance companies, pet stores and other sources to compile the list. While it is done humorously, PNC said its index mirrors real economic trends.
Besides putting out the list for fun, PNC makes it available to teachers across the country to teach economic trends.
While it's unlikely anyone would buy the items, Dunigan said one item is likely to please.
"We don't necessarily suggest picking just one, but it's hard to believe that gold rings wouldn't lead the list on a year-to-year basis," Dunigan said.
Monday, November 30, 2009
By Dan Nephin, Associated Press
Pittsburgh (AP) - Making one's true love happy will cost a whopping $87,403 this year, a minuscule increase from last year, according to the latest cost analysis of the items in the carol "The Twelve Days of Christmas."
That's the grand total for the single partridge in a pear tree to the 12 drummers drumming, purchased repeatedly as the song suggests, according to the annual "Christmas Price Index" compiled by PNC Wealth Management. The price is up a mere $794, or less than 1 percent, from $86,609 last year.
The cost of buying each item just once is increasing this year to $21,466, up 1.8 percent from last year's $21,081.
Jim Dunigan, managing executive of investment for PNC Wealth Management, which has been calculating the cost of Christmas since 1984, attributed the modest increase to lower energy costs and fewer wage increases.
It's the smallest increase since 2002, when the cost actually decreased, according to PNC.
The main driver behind the higher cost is that the price of gold has increased 43 percent, bringing the five gold rings up $150 to $500.
Although wage increases were modest, nine ladies dancing, at $5,473 per performance, is the costliest item, surpassing the that of any of the material goods.
The most expensive goods are the seven swans a-swimming at $5,250, but their cost decreased 6.3 percent from last year's $5,600. Dunigan said their cost tends to be the most volatile because of supply and demand; they were up 33 percent last year over 2007.
Costs for the 10 lords a-leaping ($4,414 per performance), 11 pipers piping ($2,285 per performance) and 12 drummers drumming ($2,475 per performance) remained the same as last year. Dunigan says that reflects the labor market in which the unemployment rate rose to near 10 percent after sitting below 5 percent for much of the decade.
And for those who would shop online, a word of caution.
PNC says you'll pay $31,435, which is down from last year's online price, but still about $10,000 more than in the traditional index.
"In general, Internet prices are higher than their non-Internet counterparts because of shipping costs for birds and the convenience factor of shopping online," Dunigan said.
PNC Financial Services Group Inc. checks jewelry stores, dance companies, pet stores and other sources to compile the list. While it is done humorously, PNC said its index mirrors real economic trends.
Besides putting out the list for fun, PNC makes it available to teachers across the country to teach economic trends.
While it's unlikely anyone would buy the items, Dunigan said one item is likely to please.
"We don't necessarily suggest picking just one, but it's hard to believe that gold rings wouldn't lead the list on a year-to-year basis," Dunigan said.
Wednesday, November 18, 2009
World First Sceptics TV ad Campaign
The Fledgling political party The Climate Sceptics will be running a TV ad campaign on several TV stations in the coming week.
http://www.climatesceptics.com.au/about-us/resources/
President of the Climate Sceptics Leon Ashby says " I believe this is the first time climate sceptics anywhere in the world have made TV ads and put them on commercial TV. It is a long way short of the $14 million dollar campaign Penny Wong organised the Government to pay for with an alarmist message, but while being outspent by over 1,000 to one, it should give the public the message the Climate sceptics are a growing number of ordinary moderate people prepared to do what is right for the country`s sake by attempting to stop the senseless ETS idea.
"The campaign is focussed in Canberra but includes Sydney and even country areas in Victoria, NSW and QLD". It is timed to put pressure on Senators voting on the ETS bill and to assist our independent candidates Stephen Murphy and Bill Koutalianos running in Higgins and Bradfield respectively.
Mr Ashby says "The idea is to educate the community that 'we have been conned' because there is proof CO2 emissions are not the cause of global warming and graphs of the official temperature records verify this . We feature diagrams also showing how useless an ETS will be as part of the campaign" he added.
The party`s 685 members are funding the campaign and more small TV ad campaigns are expected to follow.
Ashby, an Environmental award winner, says "It's obvious that people are confused what to think about an ETS so we want to educate the community on what the facts are. Unfortunately both Kevin Rudd and Malcolm Turnbull are ignoring these facts."
The four ads feature a scientific paper that proves CO2 cannot cause Dangerous Global warming, The recent global trends showing there is no current global warming, the true cost of an ETS and why China's increasing rate of emissions make Australias 5 % reduction totally pointless.
The Climate Sceptics leader concludes "So whether you consider the logic or the science or the cost of an ETS show, it's a useless Idea. the Climate Sceptics will lead the way in explaining it to the public".
All four ads are on the web site to view and download at
or to view on Youtube at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNu3iFBPglM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42Ii1GGQkbk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsQbTTVEG-8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sl0F6hFnmPs
http://www.climatesceptics.com.au/about-us/resources/
President of the Climate Sceptics Leon Ashby says " I believe this is the first time climate sceptics anywhere in the world have made TV ads and put them on commercial TV. It is a long way short of the $14 million dollar campaign Penny Wong organised the Government to pay for with an alarmist message, but while being outspent by over 1,000 to one, it should give the public the message the Climate sceptics are a growing number of ordinary moderate people prepared to do what is right for the country`s sake by attempting to stop the senseless ETS idea.
"The campaign is focussed in Canberra but includes Sydney and even country areas in Victoria, NSW and QLD". It is timed to put pressure on Senators voting on the ETS bill and to assist our independent candidates Stephen Murphy and Bill Koutalianos running in Higgins and Bradfield respectively.
Mr Ashby says "The idea is to educate the community that 'we have been conned' because there is proof CO2 emissions are not the cause of global warming and graphs of the official temperature records verify this . We feature diagrams also showing how useless an ETS will be as part of the campaign" he added.
The party`s 685 members are funding the campaign and more small TV ad campaigns are expected to follow.
Ashby, an Environmental award winner, says "It's obvious that people are confused what to think about an ETS so we want to educate the community on what the facts are. Unfortunately both Kevin Rudd and Malcolm Turnbull are ignoring these facts."
The four ads feature a scientific paper that proves CO2 cannot cause Dangerous Global warming, The recent global trends showing there is no current global warming, the true cost of an ETS and why China's increasing rate of emissions make Australias 5 % reduction totally pointless.
The Climate Sceptics leader concludes "So whether you consider the logic or the science or the cost of an ETS show, it's a useless Idea. the Climate Sceptics will lead the way in explaining it to the public".
All four ads are on the web site to view and download at
or to view on Youtube at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNu3iFBPglM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42Ii1GGQkbk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsQbTTVEG-8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sl0F6hFnmPs
Monday, November 2, 2009
Follow the science on Climate Change
The Financial Times advises us to Follow the science. It's a pity that they didn't follow their own advice.
They claim: "...especially in the Arctic, where summer sea ice has shrunk alarmingly over the past five years." oh, really - follow the science:
http://igloo.atmos.uiuc.edu/cgi-bin/test/print.sh?fm=01&fd=01&fy=2004&sm=01&sd=01&sy=2009
The FT says: The geological record shows that natural change can happen extremely fast.."
Well, the 650,000 years of Vostok Ice core samples show that warming causes atmospheric Co2 to rise with a lag of 800=/-200 years. The Medieval Warm Period was approximately 800 years ago.
The FT says: (Climatologists) suggest a real (though probably small) risk that, by pumping carbon dioxide in the atmosphere to levels not seen for millions of years, we could trigger catastrophic, runaway global warming.
Hello!?! Look at the Vostok Ice Core samples - CO2 does not cause warming. And as for millions of years, well, it's a bit shorter than that. FT should follow the science. The determination of atmospheric CO2 by the Pettenkofer method shows levels around 450 ppmv at c1820 and c1948.
FT should examine the science before it exhorts others to "follow the science."
They claim: "...especially in the Arctic, where summer sea ice has shrunk alarmingly over the past five years." oh, really - follow the science:
http://igloo.atmos.uiuc.edu/cgi-bin/test/print.sh?fm=01&fd=01&fy=2004&sm=01&sd=01&sy=2009
The FT says: The geological record shows that natural change can happen extremely fast.."
Well, the 650,000 years of Vostok Ice core samples show that warming causes atmospheric Co2 to rise with a lag of 800=/-200 years. The Medieval Warm Period was approximately 800 years ago.
The FT says: (Climatologists) suggest a real (though probably small) risk that, by pumping carbon dioxide in the atmosphere to levels not seen for millions of years, we could trigger catastrophic, runaway global warming.
Hello!?! Look at the Vostok Ice Core samples - CO2 does not cause warming. And as for millions of years, well, it's a bit shorter than that. FT should follow the science. The determination of atmospheric CO2 by the Pettenkofer method shows levels around 450 ppmv at c1820 and c1948.
FT should examine the science before it exhorts others to "follow the science."
Tuesday, October 27, 2009
Monday, October 26, 2009
Are Barack Obama and Kevin Rudd traitors.
Lord Monkton talks about loss of sovereignty.
See: http://theclimatescepticsparty.blogspot.com/2009/10/is-kevin-rudd-traitor.html
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Monday, September 21, 2009
Guide to "Layman's guide to the climate debate."
Bronwyn Lay says: "One is a climate change denier, the other a believer..."
I think she actually means Anthropogenic Global Warming sceptic (realist) and believer (alarmist). If she asked any of the realists, they would tell her that they agree that climate changes, that climate has always changed.
So, both sides of the argument should be described as climate change believers.
The confusion came about when the alarmists realised warming had stalled and had to find an alternate term to global warming.
As a Masters of English Lit, I'm sure Bronwyn would prefer to use correct terminology.
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Monday, September 7, 2009
Pollutant to be used to combat non-pollutant
From Reuters: 15 Dec 06: By Ari Rabinovitch
TEL AVIV, Dec 15 (Reuters) - Nobel Prize laureate Paul Crutzen says he has new data supporting his controversial theory that injecting the common pollutant sulphur into the atmosphere would cancel out the greenhouse effect.
Though such a project could not be implemented for at least 10 years, the data is aimed at appeasing critics of the idea he first championed in the scientific journal Climatic Change in August.
From THE LAND (Link in title) 5/9/09 by Deborah Smith
THE future of the planet could rest on risky and unproven technologies, such as giant sunshades in space to cool the Earth down, if global talks to reduce carbon dioxide emissions fail, a scientific report warns.
Other last-resort, global engineering projects that may be needed to try to avoid catastrophic climate change include forests of artificial trees, ships that spray seawater to form clouds, and injecting sulphur particles into the atmosphere to mimic volcanic activity.
There has been no possitive link to say that CO2 causes Global Warming, in fact, there have been papers to disprove that hypothesis. So, even though we have an oxymoronically named Carbon Pollution Reduction scheme here in Australia, no-one can say, truthfully, that Carbon (Dioxide) is pollution.
What is air pollution?
Air pollution occurs when the air is affected by chemicals or particles that are not normally present and have the potential to affect health. (NSW Department of Health)
So, carbon dioxide is normally present in air, and, although it does affect health, it affects health beneficially, whereas, sulphur is not normally present in air and does have the potential to affect health adversely.
So, here we have scientists from Britain's "most prestigious science body, the Royal Society," suggesting injecting a pollutant into the atmosphere to combat a non-pollutant.
The world's gone crazy, Cotillion.
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Tuesday, August 25, 2009
David K still lies away! Blown Away
In an article by David K. (Is his last name potassium?)
Headed: More lies by Climate Denialists.
Starting from the title, what a stupid statement! Is there anyone who denies that there is climate. Good Heavens, K, wake up and smell the roses.
I think he means Anthropogenic Global Warming (AGW) Denialists. I proudly stick my hand up.
Then he says "The truth: There is a scientific consensus based on decades of research. And every major scientific organization in the world agrees." Another stupid statement. True scientists push and probe at any hypothesis. AGW is an unproven hypothesis. Scientific Consensus is an oxymoron. Hey K! Have a look at petitionproject.org and count the more than 31,000 US Scientists that don't agree with your "consensus." Myth busted. Truth one is a lie!
Shot down, clown.
The truth: There really are only a handful of scientists that are most often cited, and they are all associated with free market lobbying groups whose mission it is to deny anything that might result in regulations they don't like.
31000 is just a few more than a handful. The handful is on the AGW alarmist side and they are all on the public purse. Oh Dear, K. Another blown away!
I couldn't be bothered to go beyond that. Surely you would start with your strongest points first and they have all been blown out of the water.
Don't worry. old deKay. All will out soon! The US chamber of commerce is out to expose the sham scam:
The U.S. Chamber of Commerce, trying to ward off potentially sweeping federal emissions regulations, is pushing the Environmental Protection Agency to hold a rare public hearing on the scientific evidence for man-made climate change.
Chamber officials say it would be "the Scopes monkey trial of the 21st century" -- complete with witnesses, cross-examinations and a judge who would rule, essentially, on whether humans are warming the planet to dangerous effect.
The proposed finding has drawn more than 300,000 public comments. Many of them question scientists' projections that rising temperatures will lead to increased mortality rates, harmful pollution and extreme weather events such as hurricanes.
In light of those comments, the chamber will tell the EPA in a filing today that a trial-style public hearing, which is allowed under the law but nearly unprecedented on this scale, is the only way to "make a fully informed, transparent decision with scientific integrity based on the actual record of the science."
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Saturday, August 22, 2009
Greenpeace Leader Admits Arctic Ice Exaggeration
Gerd Leipold, the outgoing leader of Greenpeace, admitted that his organization's recent claim that the Arctic Ice will disappear by 2030 was "a mistake."
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Friday, August 21, 2009
Do you think we are being misled? If so, let your member know.
Hi Folk!
I think we are being fooled by the media into thinking that the majority of people are in favour of the RET and the CPRS and the ETS.
The problem is that people aren’t being given the facts.
For the last 2+ years I ask anybody and everybody I talk to about AGW.
Up to date most haven’t had a clue what it is all about but they want to know and are frustrated that they can’t find out.
And 80%+ have this suspicion that they are in the process of being had.
But it would appear that the word is gradually getting out.
Just looking at the letters to the editor now compared to a year ago is enlightening.
A local radio station talk host has had an open line for the last two afternoons on AGW and the ETS.
By the end of today he was pleading for someone who was in favour of these bills to call in just to show he was willing to talk to the green side.
Nobody did.
I agree with (Party Member) Alan that talking to the senators, who are the ones voting on this issue would be beneficial, but I suspect that even if they have an open mind on the issue, the party line will rule.
Talking to the voters is hard, but at least talkback radio has the possibility of being our version of the US town-hall meetings, which have been decimating the proposed US government medical bill.
If our members called in to their local talk back radio at least once a week with a short to-the-point message we may start getting our message across.
The messages would need to be educational and focussed on just one or two points.
Eg:
• From unpublished observations it is clear that Antarctica and the Arctic are not rapidly melting. It is always interesting that the green, alarm raising photo spreads are always from “summer” photos when melting has always occurred.That’s a bit like showing January photos of our ski resorts and saying that their lack of snow is due to GW.
Do you think we are being misled? If so, let your member know.
• Although the government says that CO2 is the major GHG it’s not.
Water vapour and the clouds that form from it make up 95% of the GHG.
CO2 is only 4%. The reason why water vapour is left out is because the government can’t control it. And controlling all of us is one of their objectives.
Do you think we are being misled? If so, let your member know.
• Green Electrical Power.
Lets take a power plant that is rated at 100MW. If its fuel is coal or gas it will produce power for 20 hours a day or 20MWh/day. (megawatt hours/day) If it is solar or wind it will only produce 5 MWh/day.
And it is the MWhs that is what is available for people and industry to use.
That means we need 4 x 100MW green power stations to be installed to replace one carbon fuelled plant.
Not only that but because we don’t know when these green plants will produce their power we need an active carbon or hydro plant ready to take over when the wind drops or the sun goes down.
Do you think we are being misled? If so, let your member know.
The government has said that the increase to your power bills will be the only extra cost you incur. It has been pointed out that farmers and other businesses will also pass on their yet unknown extra costs,
But one that isn’t ever mentioned is your local council, who has huge power bills to keep street lights and office buildings, libraries, theatres etc & recreational facilities powered. Guess who will pay?
Do you think we are being misled? If so, let your member know.
So guys have a think about whether a “sowing the seeds of doubt” via talkback, the press or to general electronic sites would be beneficial.
Cheers,
John Ibbotson
Monday, August 17, 2009
Plans for Poverty
Plans for Poverty.
12 August 2009
A Statement by Mr Viv Forbes, Chairman, The Carbon Sense Coalition, Australia.
The Chairman of the Carbon Sense Coalition, Mr Viv Forbes, today claimed that both the Turnbull and the Wong Decarbonisation plans were “Plans for Poverty”.
Forbes explains:
“The Turnbull plan aims to reduce 2020 emissions to 90% of the 2000 level.
“But we have moved on from the year 2000. To get back to 90% of 2000 would require a 20% cut on today’s activities. Moreover, the population by 2020 will be at least 30% above that in 2000. So the Turnbull carbon cuts will need to be more than 33% per capita.
“Emissions are produced by everything we do – if we use electricity, steel, cement, timber, cars, trucks, planes, ships, trains or food from farms, we will always produce emissions. Even people sleeping on the beach burn carbon food energy and emit carbon dioxide. How is each Australian going to trim carbon usage by 33%?
“2020 is just a decade away. There is no chance that wind, solar, geothermal or carbon burial will overcome their technical, engineering, infrastructure, environmental, transmission, economic and stability problems quickly enough to generate significant quantities of emissions-free base load electricity in that time.
“That leaves only three ways to achieve the Turnbull cuts – the Green Option, the Secret Plan or the Unspeakable Option.
“The Green Option requires less use of modern technology - a return to candles and chip heaters, wood stoves and wind pumps, charcoal burners and steam engines, sulkies and bicycles, horse power and sailing clippers, possum stew and kangaroo tail soup, mud bricks, shingle roofs and cement floors made from ant bed and cow manure. Some things will disappear unless Malcolm has plans for airships lifted by political hot air, for night-time power generated from moonbeams using lunar panels, or for vegie-steak produced from algae growing in backyard ponds of poo.
“Reducing population will definitely achieve cuts in emissions without cuts in living standards. Is that the Secret Plan?
“Or of course we always have the Unspeakable Option – a crash program to build nuclear power plants in the Latrobe, the Hunter, the Barossa, the Fitzroy and the Pilbara.
“Compared to these options, maybe a bit more harmless carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is not so bad after all?
“The Wong plan and the Turnbull plan are Plans for Poverty.
“Both should be rejected.”
Viv Forbes
info@carbon-sense.com
Chairman, The Carbon Sense Coalition
MS 23 Rosewood Qld 4340 Australia
0754 640 533
Mr Forbes is Chairman of the Carbon Sense Coalition, based in Australia, a rapidly growing organisation of scientists, engineers and voters concerned at the baseless and senseless demonization of the harmless plant food, carbon dioxide.
12 August 2009
A Statement by Mr Viv Forbes, Chairman, The Carbon Sense Coalition, Australia.
The Chairman of the Carbon Sense Coalition, Mr Viv Forbes, today claimed that both the Turnbull and the Wong Decarbonisation plans were “Plans for Poverty”.
Forbes explains:
“The Turnbull plan aims to reduce 2020 emissions to 90% of the 2000 level.
“But we have moved on from the year 2000. To get back to 90% of 2000 would require a 20% cut on today’s activities. Moreover, the population by 2020 will be at least 30% above that in 2000. So the Turnbull carbon cuts will need to be more than 33% per capita.
“Emissions are produced by everything we do – if we use electricity, steel, cement, timber, cars, trucks, planes, ships, trains or food from farms, we will always produce emissions. Even people sleeping on the beach burn carbon food energy and emit carbon dioxide. How is each Australian going to trim carbon usage by 33%?
“2020 is just a decade away. There is no chance that wind, solar, geothermal or carbon burial will overcome their technical, engineering, infrastructure, environmental, transmission, economic and stability problems quickly enough to generate significant quantities of emissions-free base load electricity in that time.
“That leaves only three ways to achieve the Turnbull cuts – the Green Option, the Secret Plan or the Unspeakable Option.
“The Green Option requires less use of modern technology - a return to candles and chip heaters, wood stoves and wind pumps, charcoal burners and steam engines, sulkies and bicycles, horse power and sailing clippers, possum stew and kangaroo tail soup, mud bricks, shingle roofs and cement floors made from ant bed and cow manure. Some things will disappear unless Malcolm has plans for airships lifted by political hot air, for night-time power generated from moonbeams using lunar panels, or for vegie-steak produced from algae growing in backyard ponds of poo.
“Reducing population will definitely achieve cuts in emissions without cuts in living standards. Is that the Secret Plan?
“Or of course we always have the Unspeakable Option – a crash program to build nuclear power plants in the Latrobe, the Hunter, the Barossa, the Fitzroy and the Pilbara.
“Compared to these options, maybe a bit more harmless carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is not so bad after all?
“The Wong plan and the Turnbull plan are Plans for Poverty.
“Both should be rejected.”
Viv Forbes
info@carbon-sense.com
Chairman, The Carbon Sense Coalition
MS 23 Rosewood Qld 4340 Australia
0754 640 533
Mr Forbes is Chairman of the Carbon Sense Coalition, based in Australia, a rapidly growing organisation of scientists, engineers and voters concerned at the baseless and senseless demonization of the harmless plant food, carbon dioxide.
Saturday, August 15, 2009
Trading F...wits
From the SMH 15/8/09:
It was in the garden of the Hyatt Regency Coolum Hotel on Queensland's Sunshine Coast after a spirited debate on climate change at the annual Consilium conference of the Centre for Independent Studies.
The sceptic was one of Australia's most successful entrepreneurs, Peter Farrell, founder of ResMed, a company that generates about $1billion a year selling treatments for sleep apnoea.
Farrell believes that while climate change may be real, it's not because of human activity. And he's impatient with people who disagree. He met his match.
“Why is everyone a f---wit except you?” fumed Turnbull, the climate change believer.
Well, everyone but Mr Farrell, more than 33,000 US scientists, members of his own party like Tony Abbott, Nick Minchin, Wilson Tuckey, members of his coalition like Barnaby Joyce and Ron Boswell, like respected Australian scientists such as Professors Carter and Plimer, Bill Kininmonth and the members of the newly formed Climate Sceptics party etc etc
Perhaps Mr Farrell should have replied: "“Why is everyone a f---wit except you?”
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Monday, August 10, 2009
Trading carbon for disaster - Govt plots against people!
What is it called when a government plots against its people? When people plot against the government, it is called treason; but the reverse...??
From Business Spectator - Commentary by Robert Gottliebsen 7 Aug 2009
-- “When a nation or a company is doing something stupid there will be a trigger that explodes the wrong strategy. In this case it is the Latrobe Valley brown coal power stations. These stations have huge debt repayments and emit a lot of carbon so the Canberra plan was that they should go broke and be bought at token prices.
-- … “Latrobe Valley companies will halt long term maintenance. TRUenergy has already announced this, but at least one or two other Latrobe stations follow … who in their right mind would spend cash when they have no idea whether the generators will be viable in the short and long term because of carbon charges and carbon policy is not known. Last summer every Latrobe Valley station went without a break down – the first time that has happened. This summer the odds are that they will break down. The companies are gradually abandoning long term contracts and going for the spot market which means that when there is a power station failure they will go into an Australian wide bidding process for power, sending prices through the roof. However, there is a limited amount that can be sent to Victoria so Victorians will have the main burden of the price hikes and blackouts."
-- “The banks will have the power to take control of at least one Latrobe Valley power station within six to nine months. They will be trying to extract as much money from the station as possible so will also cease long term maintenance and go for spot prices. If Australian and Victoria think the blackouts next summer are going to be bad wait for the following year when the full impact hits the nation.
From Business Spectator - Commentary by Robert Gottliebsen 7 Aug 2009
-- “When a nation or a company is doing something stupid there will be a trigger that explodes the wrong strategy. In this case it is the Latrobe Valley brown coal power stations. These stations have huge debt repayments and emit a lot of carbon so the Canberra plan was that they should go broke and be bought at token prices.
-- … “Latrobe Valley companies will halt long term maintenance. TRUenergy has already announced this, but at least one or two other Latrobe stations follow … who in their right mind would spend cash when they have no idea whether the generators will be viable in the short and long term because of carbon charges and carbon policy is not known. Last summer every Latrobe Valley station went without a break down – the first time that has happened. This summer the odds are that they will break down. The companies are gradually abandoning long term contracts and going for the spot market which means that when there is a power station failure they will go into an Australian wide bidding process for power, sending prices through the roof. However, there is a limited amount that can be sent to Victoria so Victorians will have the main burden of the price hikes and blackouts."
-- “The banks will have the power to take control of at least one Latrobe Valley power station within six to nine months. They will be trying to extract as much money from the station as possible so will also cease long term maintenance and go for spot prices. If Australian and Victoria think the blackouts next summer are going to be bad wait for the following year when the full impact hits the nation.
Friday, August 7, 2009
Cullin' Kevin's Carbon Crisis
Why Kill me, Cullin' Kevin?
Concern on Carbon Costs of Camel Cull.
A Statement by Mr Viv Forbes, Chairman, The Carbon Sense Coalition, Australia.
The Chairman of the Carbon Sense Coalition, Mr Viv Forbes, today claimed that the plan by Australian PM Rudd to cull one million camels may have unexpected carbon tax consequences.
Forbes explains:
“PM Rudd proposes to spend $19 million shooting one million wild camels.
“A big camel probably weighs about a tonne, so Mr Rudd is going to let a million tonnes of valuable meat rot under the Centralian sun.
“Each camel probably has about 190 kg of carbon sequestered in its body. As it rots and absorbs oxygen, this carbon will increase into about 700 kg of carbon dioxide which will then dissipate into the atmosphere.
“If the Australian Senate is silly enough to pass the Wong carbon dioxide Ration-n-Tax Scheme this shootout will thus trigger a huge carbon tax liability.
“At a carbon emission price of say $40 per tonne of carbon dioxide, the carbon tax on one million rotting camels would be about $28 million.
“If we add to that the actual cull costs of about $19 million and the carbon tax due on helicopter emissions and other activities, the total cost of the cull is about $50 million.
“This illustrates the dangers of costly unexpected consequences resulting from complex poorly designed bills being rushed through both Australian and US Legislatures by Mr Rudd and his buddy Mr Obama. Luckily Senators in both countries will probably reject this nonsense.
“If not, this $50 million invoice for the full costs of the camel shootout should not be presented to the taxpayers, but sent to Cull Commander Senator Garrett.
“This may convince him to chase up a few old Territorian buffalo shooters who could make a tidy profit at no cost to the taxpayer by culling the camels and selling the meat to Taiwan. Or we could sell permits to a few big game hunters. Or sell live camels to the Arabs.”
END (312 words)
Viv Forbes
info@carbon-sense.com
Chairman, The Carbon Sense Coalition
www.carbon-sense.com
MS 23 Rosewood Qld 4340 Australia
0754 640 533
Thursday, July 30, 2009
Wilson Tuckey to speak at Climate Sceptics Protest - Aug 13th
He may be Joe Hockey's cranky old uncle, but Wilson Tuckey makes a lot of sense and stands up for his constituents.
Wilson opposes the ETS on both sides of the issue, i.e. need and effectiveness, but will say also that if a response is needed, other options are available that provide energy efficiency and security.
Wilson has agreed to be one of the speakers at the protest at Parliament House on the 13th August, 2009.
Sunday, July 26, 2009
VOTE NO! Come Clean Malcolm
There are not many Ph.D's in Australia's Federal parliament. There are even less members that have even a basic understanding of science.
Here's a scientific rule: Co2 is vital to life.
Here's a political rule: votes are vital to survival.
Here's a forgotten rule: Parliamentary representatives represent members of the public (let's call THE members of the public - MPs)
Glenn Milne in Today's Sunday Telegraph called Wilson Tuckey wacky because he was representing the views of his voters. Hello?!?, Glenn, do you understand the principles of democray?
But back to Ph.D's. Global Warming sceptic and nuclear power advocate Dennis Jensen,
(described incorrectly in "The West" as "Climate change sceptic") has survived yet another attempt to oust him from his seat, at least for the next few weeks.
Malcolm did not give Dennis much support.
Can it be that Malcolm will profit from an ETS? His ex-Goldman Sachs partners in conjunction with BigAl (profiting more than if he was supported by BigOil) have set up a Carbon Credit and Sustainable Energy Trading Company GIM.
Goldman Sachs (a big contributor to the Democratic Party) people involved with GIM are
Henry Paulson, Peter Harris, Mark Ferguson and David Blood.
We know Goldman Sachs owns 10% of the Chicago Climate Exchange.
We know GIM owns 10% of the Chicago Climate Exchange.
Malcolm, I ask that you support your scientific member from the West, support Australia by knocking back the ETS and support honesty by declaring your financial interests in carbon credits.
And let's face it, carbon credits won't make one iota of difference to global warming.
Australia's carbon emissions don't mean a thing compared with US, China and India - oh, and don't forget Europe.
What a joke
Here's a scientific rule: Co2 is vital to life.
Here's a political rule: votes are vital to survival.
Here's a forgotten rule: Parliamentary representatives represent members of the public (let's call THE members of the public - MPs)
Glenn Milne in Today's Sunday Telegraph called Wilson Tuckey wacky because he was representing the views of his voters. Hello?!?, Glenn, do you understand the principles of democray?
But back to Ph.D's. Global Warming sceptic and nuclear power advocate Dennis Jensen,
(described incorrectly in "The West" as "Climate change sceptic") has survived yet another attempt to oust him from his seat, at least for the next few weeks.
Malcolm did not give Dennis much support.
Can it be that Malcolm will profit from an ETS? His ex-Goldman Sachs partners in conjunction with BigAl (profiting more than if he was supported by BigOil) have set up a Carbon Credit and Sustainable Energy Trading Company GIM.
Goldman Sachs (a big contributor to the Democratic Party) people involved with GIM are
Henry Paulson, Peter Harris, Mark Ferguson and David Blood.
We know Goldman Sachs owns 10% of the Chicago Climate Exchange.
We know GIM owns 10% of the Chicago Climate Exchange.
Malcolm, I ask that you support your scientific member from the West, support Australia by knocking back the ETS and support honesty by declaring your financial interests in carbon credits.
And let's face it, carbon credits won't make one iota of difference to global warming.
Australia's carbon emissions don't mean a thing compared with US, China and India - oh, and don't forget Europe.
What a joke
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Friday, July 24, 2009
Rural MPs climate change doubters
From Adam Morton in the Land.
"A study examining the climate change beliefs of 11 rural politicians has found an overwhelming majority of Coalition MPs interviewed doubted that global warming was linked to greenhouse gas emissions."
People on the land (not THE LAND) have survived climate change for years, they know climate.
"But researcher Lizette Willinck said MPs had little grasp of what climate scientists had reported."
Does the researcher have a grasp of what climate scientists have reported; e.g. -
Peer-Reviewed Study Rocks Climate Debate! '
Nature not man responsible for recent global warming...little or none of late 20th century warming and cooling can be attributed to humans'A new peer-reviewed climate study is presenting a head on challenge to man-made global warming claims. The study by three climate researchers appears in the July 23, 2009 edition of Journal of Geophysical Research.
Three Australasian researchers have shown that natural forces are the dominant influence on climate, in a study just published in the highly-regarded Journal of Geophysical Research. According to this study little or none of the late 20th century global warming and cooling can be attributed to human activity.
The research, by Chris de Freitas, a climate scientist at the University of Auckland in New Zealand, John McLean (Melbourne) and Bob Carter (James Cook University), finds that the El Niño-Southern Oscillation (ENSO) is a key indicator of global atmospheric temperatures seven months later. As an additional influence, intermittent volcanic activity injects cooling aerosols into the atmosphere and produces significant cooling.
And the Land used the cliched photo of water vapour coming out of a tower.
My photo is of CO2 at work.
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Thursday, July 23, 2009
David K or should that be DECAY?
Independent Climate Skeptics - Well, Maybe not so Independent After All (With Graphics) [UPDATED: THE SUMMARY]
Climate skeptics like to claim that there are many independent scientists who refute the consensus of climate change. They love to cite folks like S. Fred Singer, Robert Carter, Roy Spencer (ahem, Dr. Roy Spencer), Pat Michaels, and Willie Soon. Each of these people is asserted to be some independent minded scientist bucking the trend.
Except it isn't true.
There really are only a handful of climate skeptic scientists.
So says cowardly cretin David K. And then he says comments are not allowed. Why?
Well, how does that compare with Senator Inhofe's 700 global warming deniers?
Isn't 700 a little more than a handful, David K?
How does your handful compare with petitionproject's 31,000 plus.
Would you say 31,000 is more than a handful, David K?
No wonder you are afraid to allow comments!
Climate skeptics like to claim that there are many independent scientists who refute the consensus of climate change. They love to cite folks like S. Fred Singer, Robert Carter, Roy Spencer (ahem, Dr. Roy Spencer), Pat Michaels, and Willie Soon. Each of these people is asserted to be some independent minded scientist bucking the trend.
Except it isn't true.
There really are only a handful of climate skeptic scientists.
So says cowardly cretin David K. And then he says comments are not allowed. Why?
Well, how does that compare with Senator Inhofe's 700 global warming deniers?
Isn't 700 a little more than a handful, David K?
How does your handful compare with petitionproject's 31,000 plus.
Would you say 31,000 is more than a handful, David K?
No wonder you are afraid to allow comments!
Thursday, July 16, 2009
Climate Sceptics Party Not Evil Just Wrong
Just noticed the Climate Sceptics Party have started their own blog and are promoting the Film "Not Evil Just Wrong."
Monday, July 13, 2009
Bill Gates blows hard or is it Soft
Is there something in the water? The G8+ mob decided that they would stop temperature rising more that 2º. Strange people!
Now we have Bill Gates micromanaging the environment. He is going to stop hurricanes.
"Microsoft's chairman is among the inventors listed on a new batch of patent applications that propose using large fleets of vessels to suppress hurricanes through various methods of mixing warm water from the surface of the ocean with colder water at greater depths. The idea is to decrease the surface temperature, reducing or eliminating the heat-driven condensation that fuels the giant storms."
Saturday, July 11, 2009
Sceptics to hassle Al Gore
In the Sydney Morning Herald:
Sceptics to hassle Al Gore
Ben Cubby, Environment Reporter
July 11, 2009
STREET theatre and placard-waving protest are not generally the province of Australia's climate sceptics, but they are making an exception for a visit by the former US vice-president Al Gore.
The Climate Sceptics Party, a newly formed group seeking enough members to be a registered political entity, will picket Mr Gore when he addresses a business breakfast in Melbourne on Monday.
Anyone interested can find details from http://www.climatesceptics.com.au
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The Great Climate Change Con Trick Exposed
In his garden, James Delipole interviews Professor Plimer - tanned, rugged, white-haired sixtysomething — courteous and jolly but combative when he needs to be — glowing with the health of a man who spends half his life on field expeditions to Iran, Turkey and his beloved Outback.
The Great Climate Change Con Trick is exposed by Ian's wonderful book full of peer-reviewed references.
Let's forget any ETS or Carbon (dioxide tax.)
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Friday, July 10, 2009
United breaks Guitars
Canadian Musician Dave Carroll had a bad experience with his guitar.
"We were sitting at the back of the plane with the band, and a woman who didn't know we were musicians yells out, 'Oh, my God they're throwing guitars outside'," Carroll told local media.
After months of trying in vain to get the airline to pay compensation and help repair the instrument worth 3,500 Canadian dollars ($A3,850), Carroll changed tack.
So here wrote this song.
A miilion (internet) hits later he has a hit!!
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Thursday, July 9, 2009
Hypocrits in Science and Science journalism
In an excellent article in the National Post, Lorne Gunther points out the hypocrisy of the Alarmist scientists and the MSM journalists:
"...the rhetoric of global warming and climate change has become even more frenzied since 2006, not less, even to the point where scientists skeptical of the warming theory are being gagged by the Obama administration and the UN.
...Recall that during the Bush years, scientists and environmentalist often claimed that U. S. government research into climate change was being stifled by the Republican administration. Never mind that during the Bush years the United States spent nearly $2-billion a year on climate research, almost all of it on the environmentalists' side, or that the government scientist who most frequently claimed to be censored -- NASA's James Hansen -- gave media interviews and speeches, published academic papers or wrote newspaper articles more than 1,400 times during the Bush administration. There were always journalists ready to regurgitate the insistence of activist scientists that their vital warnings on warming we being squelched, whether they were or not."
See my previous post on the suppression of EPA veteran Alan Carlin's report.
Where were the scientists protesting the suppression of information?
Where were the jounalists (who should be ever sceptical of spin) protesting the suppression of information?
"...the rhetoric of global warming and climate change has become even more frenzied since 2006, not less, even to the point where scientists skeptical of the warming theory are being gagged by the Obama administration and the UN.
...Recall that during the Bush years, scientists and environmentalist often claimed that U. S. government research into climate change was being stifled by the Republican administration. Never mind that during the Bush years the United States spent nearly $2-billion a year on climate research, almost all of it on the environmentalists' side, or that the government scientist who most frequently claimed to be censored -- NASA's James Hansen -- gave media interviews and speeches, published academic papers or wrote newspaper articles more than 1,400 times during the Bush administration. There were always journalists ready to regurgitate the insistence of activist scientists that their vital warnings on warming we being squelched, whether they were or not."
See my previous post on the suppression of EPA veteran Alan Carlin's report.
Where were the scientists protesting the suppression of information?
Where were the jounalists (who should be ever sceptical of spin) protesting the suppression of information?
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Monday, July 6, 2009
Educational Protest against Al Gore on 13th July
Protest
All members of the community sceptical that CO2 causes climate change are most welcome to join in an "Educational protest" outside where Al Gore will be giving a speech at Docklands on Monday 13th July.
If you are interested in attending the protest and want more info, email info@climatesceptics.com.au
Billets are available for anyone travelling to this event.
We will meet at the southern end of Southern Cross station at 6.15 am to get organised for a 6.30 am start.
Please bring a placard. Try to be humourous as well as educational.
T shirts saying "Global warming? C.R.A.P. Carbon Really Ain't Pollution" will be available to buy & wear.
Leaflets with 10 questions for Al Gore will be supplied for volunteers to hand out to those attending Al Gore's Breakfast.
The event will go from 6.30 am to 7.30 am (including a few speeches at the end.)
We will then have a cuppa afterwards at Southern Cross Station to debrief.
The event will be videoed and put on Youtube.
This event will be an important one in helping to turn the community`s view about climate change around . In years to come you may like to remember you were there.
Looking forward to meeting as many of you as possible.
Yours in Scepticism.
Leon Ashby
President.
The Climate Sceptics Party.
All members of the community sceptical that CO2 causes climate change are most welcome to join in an "Educational protest" outside where Al Gore will be giving a speech at Docklands on Monday 13th July.
If you are interested in attending the protest and want more info, email info@climatesceptics.com.au
Billets are available for anyone travelling to this event.
We will meet at the southern end of Southern Cross station at 6.15 am to get organised for a 6.30 am start.
Please bring a placard. Try to be humourous as well as educational.
T shirts saying "Global warming? C.R.A.P. Carbon Really Ain't Pollution" will be available to buy & wear.
Leaflets with 10 questions for Al Gore will be supplied for volunteers to hand out to those attending Al Gore's Breakfast.
The event will go from 6.30 am to 7.30 am (including a few speeches at the end.)
We will then have a cuppa afterwards at Southern Cross Station to debrief.
The event will be videoed and put on Youtube.
This event will be an important one in helping to turn the community`s view about climate change around . In years to come you may like to remember you were there.
Looking forward to meeting as many of you as possible.
Yours in Scepticism.
Leon Ashby
President.
The Climate Sceptics Party.
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Hottest day - Melbourne
Wednesday, July 1, 2009
Planet Cools but hype heats up
More and more the scandal of the Global warming hoax is being exposed.
Just this week, the US Environmental Protection Agency suppressed a report by one of their veteran PhD scientists throwing doubt on the guilt of CO2.
Following up on that, the Obama administration has issued a spin report full of inconvenient lies.
From an IBD editorial: " It then hired an activist media firm that specializes in environmental campaigns, to hype meaningless computer-generated Hollywood disaster scenarios:
Catastrophic sea levels, floods in lower Manhattan, California beaches permanently submerged. Ferocious hurricanes. Droughts. Food shortages, epidemic diseases, a quadrupling of heat-wave deaths. Aged sewer systems convulsing from massive storm runoff. Polar bears disappearing from the Arctic. It may be the most flagrant attempted con job in U.S. history. "
Saturday, June 27, 2009
Save the Planet - Go Naked into the World
Kathy Blanchard in the US Naturist Society's magazine advocates that we go naked to save the planet. You think I'm joking, don't you.
Here's her words: Thinking green is not a fad. It's an imperative. ...As naturists, we have an added tie to going green. ...Go nude. That may seem obvious, but how many naturists or nudists actually spend much time naked? Living more hours naked each day results in a dramatic drop in my laundry, which in turn reduces my water and energy use (along with my related bills). It also reduces the amount of soap I release.
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Here's her words: Thinking green is not a fad. It's an imperative. ...As naturists, we have an added tie to going green. ...Go nude. That may seem obvious, but how many naturists or nudists actually spend much time naked? Living more hours naked each day results in a dramatic drop in my laundry, which in turn reduces my water and energy use (along with my related bills). It also reduces the amount of soap I release.
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Thursday, June 25, 2009
Hail the hero, Godwin Grech
In an "Australian" editorial entitled Whistleblowers play essential role June 25, 2009. "IT will come as little surprise to learn that The Australian is in favour of public service leaks. The more the better. Whistleblowing serves the public interest, increasing transparency, enforcing accountability and protecting democracy."
This man, who thought he was doing a patriotic duty exposing what he thought was government corruption, should be held on shoulders and marched around like a hero. Instead he has been used as a Labor Party whipping boy, has been ridiculed, has been silenced by Labor Senator Bullies, Bullied by his superior in the senate enquiry and has had his health harmed.
Shame, Labor Senators, Shame.
Shame Kevin Rudd, shame.
And to be perfectly even-handed, shame Malcolm Turnbull for creeping round the questions instead of championing the little guy whistleblower.
Incidentally, isn't the Labor party against bullying, or does that only occur when it isn;t themselves.
This man, who thought he was doing a patriotic duty exposing what he thought was government corruption, should be held on shoulders and marched around like a hero. Instead he has been used as a Labor Party whipping boy, has been ridiculed, has been silenced by Labor Senator Bullies, Bullied by his superior in the senate enquiry and has had his health harmed.
Shame, Labor Senators, Shame.
Shame Kevin Rudd, shame.
And to be perfectly even-handed, shame Malcolm Turnbull for creeping round the questions instead of championing the little guy whistleblower.
Incidentally, isn't the Labor party against bullying, or does that only occur when it isn;t themselves.
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Reply to Professor Adams
Professor Adams, being sceptical of scptics, has said In his view, it can be stated with confidence that climate change is happening...
Well, yes Peter. Climate change is happening, it was ever thus.
Prof. Adams noted that some of the skeptics have seemingly impressive credentials, but illustrated how nefarious their tactics can be by using a powerful analogy involving the statue of Venus de Milo:
"The scientist would say that the Venus de Milo is a statue of a woman, whereas the skeptic would say 'A woman has arms, and this statue has no arms; therefore, it's not certain that this is a statue of a woman, and it can't be proven as such until the arms are found.'"
OK, take the statue as a symbol of global warming. A woman has warmth, and this statue has no warmth; therefore, it's not certain that this is a statue of a global warming, and it can't be proven as such until the warmth is found.'"
Get rid of this stupid, deceptive title of Climate change and get back to the original global warming or is it that the warming scientists are against both warming and cooling.
Well, yes Peter. Climate change is happening, it was ever thus.
Prof. Adams noted that some of the skeptics have seemingly impressive credentials, but illustrated how nefarious their tactics can be by using a powerful analogy involving the statue of Venus de Milo:
"The scientist would say that the Venus de Milo is a statue of a woman, whereas the skeptic would say 'A woman has arms, and this statue has no arms; therefore, it's not certain that this is a statue of a woman, and it can't be proven as such until the arms are found.'"
OK, take the statue as a symbol of global warming. A woman has warmth, and this statue has no warmth; therefore, it's not certain that this is a statue of a global warming, and it can't be proven as such until the warmth is found.'"
Get rid of this stupid, deceptive title of Climate change and get back to the original global warming or is it that the warming scientists are against both warming and cooling.
Saturday, June 20, 2009
An Open Letter to All Members of Parliament
An Open Letter to All Members of Parliament
From the Carbon Sense Coalition
Soon our elected representatives will be asked to vote on Senator Wong’s Carbon Pollution Reduction Scheme.
This scheme is not about carbon or pollution. It main effect is to provide for a cap on the human production of carbon dioxide, a colourless harmless natural gas. Carbon dioxide is no more a pollutant than oxygen or water, the other two atmospheric gases on which all life on earth relies.
The bill will also levy a tax on whatever carbon dioxide is produced, and levy an excess production tax on anyone whose production exceeds the legal cap. It is a carbon dioxide Cap-n-Tax Bill.
There is no human activity whatsoever that does not generate carbon dioxide. Therefore any attempt to measure, cap and tax human production of carbon dioxide must eventually extend to every human activity (the UK government already floated the idea that every person be issued with a personal carbon ration card).
This is a very serious proposal, with wide-ranging implications for all aspects of economic life and personal freedoms. It could only be justified if there was a clear and urgent danger that additional human production of carbon dioxide is highly likely to cause dangerous global warming. There is no evidence that this is the case.
Neither the scientific questions, nor the cost benefit analysis has been subject to any critical independent analysis.
The diagram below illustrates the sequence of decisions that should be made before this bill gets assent. If the answer to ANY ONE of the boxed questions is “NO”, there is no justification for Australia rushing ahead with its Cap-n-Tax Bill.
This diagram, although light-hearted, has a factual basis and conveys some very serious messages.
It is highly unlikely that anyone could honestly answer “Yes” to every question, which is what is required to justify passage of the bill. This shows that there is a high likelihood that the bill will have NO CLIMATE EFFECT WHATSOEVER and thus a costly exercise in self delusion.
Our strong recommendation is that the Parliament rejects this bill entirely.
From the Carbon Sense Coalition
Soon our elected representatives will be asked to vote on Senator Wong’s Carbon Pollution Reduction Scheme.
This scheme is not about carbon or pollution. It main effect is to provide for a cap on the human production of carbon dioxide, a colourless harmless natural gas. Carbon dioxide is no more a pollutant than oxygen or water, the other two atmospheric gases on which all life on earth relies.
The bill will also levy a tax on whatever carbon dioxide is produced, and levy an excess production tax on anyone whose production exceeds the legal cap. It is a carbon dioxide Cap-n-Tax Bill.
There is no human activity whatsoever that does not generate carbon dioxide. Therefore any attempt to measure, cap and tax human production of carbon dioxide must eventually extend to every human activity (the UK government already floated the idea that every person be issued with a personal carbon ration card).
This is a very serious proposal, with wide-ranging implications for all aspects of economic life and personal freedoms. It could only be justified if there was a clear and urgent danger that additional human production of carbon dioxide is highly likely to cause dangerous global warming. There is no evidence that this is the case.
Neither the scientific questions, nor the cost benefit analysis has been subject to any critical independent analysis.
The diagram below illustrates the sequence of decisions that should be made before this bill gets assent. If the answer to ANY ONE of the boxed questions is “NO”, there is no justification for Australia rushing ahead with its Cap-n-Tax Bill.
This diagram, although light-hearted, has a factual basis and conveys some very serious messages.
It is highly unlikely that anyone could honestly answer “Yes” to every question, which is what is required to justify passage of the bill. This shows that there is a high likelihood that the bill will have NO CLIMATE EFFECT WHATSOEVER and thus a costly exercise in self delusion.
Our strong recommendation is that the Parliament rejects this bill entirely.
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Friday, June 19, 2009
PETA - Please Eliminate These Activists
From Associated Press:
Washington (AP) - The group People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals wants the flyswatter in chief to try taking a more humane attitude the next time he's bedeviled by a fly in the White House.
PETA is sending President Barack Obama a Katcha Bug Humane Bug Catcher, a device that allows users to trap a house fly and then release it outside.
We know that PETA uses similar tactics on animals that they "rescue" from animal shelters. They gently rescue them from shelters and release them outside; they release them from life and then dump them outside fast food restaurants!
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/06/23/EDG11DC9BK1.DTL
"DON'T BE FOOLED by the slick propaganda of PETA, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals. The organization may claim to champion the welfare of animals, as the many photos of cute puppies and kittens on its Web site suggest. But last week, two PETA employees were charged with 31 felony counts of animal cruelty each, after authorities found them dumping the dead bodies of 18 animals they had just picked up from a North Carolina animal shelter into a Dumpster. According to the Associated Press, 13 more dead animals were found in a van registered to PETA."
and -
This is not the first report that PETA killed animals it claimed to protect. In 1991, PETA killed 18 rabbits and 14 roosters it had previously "rescued" from a research facility. "We just don't have the money" to care for them, then PETA-Chairman Alex Pacheco told the Washington Times. The PETA animal shelter had run out of room.
The Center for Consumer Freedom, which represents the food industry, a frequent target of PETA campaigns, released data filed by PETA with the state of Virginia that shows PETA has killed more than 10,000 animals from 1998 to 2003.
and PETA TOP DOG Ingrid Newkirk
"Besides, PETA always has been about killing animals. A 2003 New Yorker profile included PETA top dog Ingrid Newkirk's story of how she became involved in animal rights after a shelter put down stray kittens she brought there. So she went to work for an animal shelter in the 1970s, where, she explained, "I would go to work early, before anyone got there, and I would just kill the animals myself. Because I couldn't stand to let them go through (other workers abusing the animals.) I must have killed a thousand of them, sometimes dozens every day."
Washington (AP) - The group People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals wants the flyswatter in chief to try taking a more humane attitude the next time he's bedeviled by a fly in the White House.
PETA is sending President Barack Obama a Katcha Bug Humane Bug Catcher, a device that allows users to trap a house fly and then release it outside.
We know that PETA uses similar tactics on animals that they "rescue" from animal shelters. They gently rescue them from shelters and release them outside; they release them from life and then dump them outside fast food restaurants!
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/06/23/EDG11DC9BK1.DTL
"DON'T BE FOOLED by the slick propaganda of PETA, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals. The organization may claim to champion the welfare of animals, as the many photos of cute puppies and kittens on its Web site suggest. But last week, two PETA employees were charged with 31 felony counts of animal cruelty each, after authorities found them dumping the dead bodies of 18 animals they had just picked up from a North Carolina animal shelter into a Dumpster. According to the Associated Press, 13 more dead animals were found in a van registered to PETA."
and -
This is not the first report that PETA killed animals it claimed to protect. In 1991, PETA killed 18 rabbits and 14 roosters it had previously "rescued" from a research facility. "We just don't have the money" to care for them, then PETA-Chairman Alex Pacheco told the Washington Times. The PETA animal shelter had run out of room.
The Center for Consumer Freedom, which represents the food industry, a frequent target of PETA campaigns, released data filed by PETA with the state of Virginia that shows PETA has killed more than 10,000 animals from 1998 to 2003.
and PETA TOP DOG Ingrid Newkirk
"Besides, PETA always has been about killing animals. A 2003 New Yorker profile included PETA top dog Ingrid Newkirk's story of how she became involved in animal rights after a shelter put down stray kittens she brought there. So she went to work for an animal shelter in the 1970s, where, she explained, "I would go to work early, before anyone got there, and I would just kill the animals myself. Because I couldn't stand to let them go through (other workers abusing the animals.) I must have killed a thousand of them, sometimes dozens every day."
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Monday, June 15, 2009
We smell a RAT, Mr Rudd
“Carbon Sense”
June 2009
The RAT Scheme.
“The RAT Scheme will destroy jobs, jobs, jobs.”
A statement/letter by Mr Viv Forbes, Chairman of the Carbon Sense Coalition.
13 June 2009
Any politician interested in preserving Australian jobs must vote against “The Carbon Pollution Reduction Scheme”. It will not change the climate, it will do nothing useful for the planet and it will destroy real jobs faster than green jobs can be created.
This deceptively misnamed bill is not about “carbon” nor about “pollution reduction” – it is designed to Ration and Tax human production of carbon dioxide (CO2). It is correctly named “the Carbon Dioxide Ration and Tax Scheme” or “the RAT Scheme” for short.
There is no human activity or business that produces zero carbon dioxide – every activity (even sleeping on the job) produces CO2, either directly or indirectly. And for Australia’s chief industries, there is no feasible alternative on the horizon. Electricity generation, transport and tourism, agriculture and food processing, mining and mineral processing, infrastructure and construction, forestry and fishing, metals and cement, electronics and appliances – all depend for most of their energy on hydro-carbons – coal, oil and gas.
Even with a crash-through program of investment in alternative energy, the base load power will still be required, with boilers charged and staff on standby to cope with the many times when there is neither sun nor wind energy available. Given time and the political will, nuclear power could take up base-load power generation (at higher costs). But that looks unlikely to occur any time soon.
The first thing the RAT Scheme will do is establish a “cap” - a ration or limit on the production of CO2. (The exact level of the cap, and the base reference year will apparently be set using a roulette wheel in Penny Wong’s office.)
A Carbon Energy Ration Card from an Earlier Era.
The whole purpose of the cap is to force Australia’s backbone industries to reduce production of CO2 (unless of course they are exempted, but that would make the whole exercise even more pointless and unfair than it is now). There are no real alternatives available in many applications (solar aircraft? wind powered trucks? geothermal fishing trawlers?) Thus the cap must thus reduce production.
This throttling of our key industries by way of Emission ration permits will cause the first round of job layoffs.
Then comes the tax whammy.
Most industries will have to pay for their cap entitlement – ie they have to pay to do what they have previously been doing for free. Even after they have paid for production up to their rationed entitlement, any business which wishes to return to its pre-Rat scheme production levels (above the cap), must buy new ration permits in a speculative Emissions Permit market. This is another tax which has to be recovered from customers, other businesses or shareholders.
The first law of fiscal policy is this: “If you tax something, less of it will be produced.” This is the real aim of the RAT Scheme and it will achieve that aim.
There are always marginal businesses in all industries. An increase in taxes will cause a few of them to close their doors or move to a more enlightened country. And there are always nervous bankers ready to pull the plug because of the extra risk in the speculative carbon trading market.
In the green new world there is also no room for new projects or new jobs in traditional industries – any new project will need to force closure of an old project by buying its Ration permits on the market.
These new and uncertain taxes on existing production will cause the second round of job losses.
Even those businesses that survive the production cap, the ration fee and the excess carbon tax, will be forced to increase their prices to recoup the extra costs. This makes them less able to compete with imports in the Australian market, or with other exporters in the world market. Countries such as India, China, Brazil and South Africa, who have no intention of embracing the shackles of a RAT Scheme, will be the chief beneficiaries. Overseas is where the real new jobs will be created.
This unfair competition from foreign firms will cause the third round of jobs layoffs.
To date we have only looked at things from the perspective of existing industry.
There is also a whole gamut of global warming policies that will directly or indirectly subsidize regulators, inspectors, auditors, lawyers, bankers, carbon traders, international conferences, and the manufacture and operation of subsidised facilities such as wind farms, solar arrays, carbon forests and facilities granted exemptions from the costs everyone else must bear.
The second law of fiscal policy is this: “If you subsidise something, you will get more of it”.
We will thus get more of these costly subsidised things – the Climate Change Industry looks like becoming the biggest industry in the world. It will compete with real industry for materials, labour and rationed energy, but will not put cheaper food on our plate, cheaper or more reliable electricity into the grid or make a net contribution to tax revenue.
The growing costs of the Climate Change Industry must filter back to the real economy, causing more job layoffs.
Three places in the world have already tested the Green Job Creation Myth – Spain and Denmark with massive wind and solar power developments and California which tries to lead the world in everything green.
All three have seen loss of jobs as industries close or relocate because of costly or unreliable electricity supply. A recent study in Spain has concluded that more than 2 real jobs were destroyed for every green job created. In addition Spain has 17% unemployment, electricity shortages, and power costs up by from 30% (homes) to 100% (businesses). Denmark is selling unreliable wind power at a loss, and California’s climate madness has caused a huge loss of jobs and tax revenue.
Surely Australia can learn from the mistakes of others and refuse to pass this dangerous legislation.
For more information on Green Job destruction in Spain see:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzFlO6Bk-C0&feature=player_embedded
Viv Forbes Chairman
The Carbon Sense Coalition
MS 23 Rosewood Qld Australia 4340
0754 640 533 info@carbon-sense.com
June 2009
The RAT Scheme.
“The RAT Scheme will destroy jobs, jobs, jobs.”
A statement/letter by Mr Viv Forbes, Chairman of the Carbon Sense Coalition.
13 June 2009
Any politician interested in preserving Australian jobs must vote against “The Carbon Pollution Reduction Scheme”. It will not change the climate, it will do nothing useful for the planet and it will destroy real jobs faster than green jobs can be created.
This deceptively misnamed bill is not about “carbon” nor about “pollution reduction” – it is designed to Ration and Tax human production of carbon dioxide (CO2). It is correctly named “the Carbon Dioxide Ration and Tax Scheme” or “the RAT Scheme” for short.
There is no human activity or business that produces zero carbon dioxide – every activity (even sleeping on the job) produces CO2, either directly or indirectly. And for Australia’s chief industries, there is no feasible alternative on the horizon. Electricity generation, transport and tourism, agriculture and food processing, mining and mineral processing, infrastructure and construction, forestry and fishing, metals and cement, electronics and appliances – all depend for most of their energy on hydro-carbons – coal, oil and gas.
Even with a crash-through program of investment in alternative energy, the base load power will still be required, with boilers charged and staff on standby to cope with the many times when there is neither sun nor wind energy available. Given time and the political will, nuclear power could take up base-load power generation (at higher costs). But that looks unlikely to occur any time soon.
The first thing the RAT Scheme will do is establish a “cap” - a ration or limit on the production of CO2. (The exact level of the cap, and the base reference year will apparently be set using a roulette wheel in Penny Wong’s office.)
A Carbon Energy Ration Card from an Earlier Era.
The whole purpose of the cap is to force Australia’s backbone industries to reduce production of CO2 (unless of course they are exempted, but that would make the whole exercise even more pointless and unfair than it is now). There are no real alternatives available in many applications (solar aircraft? wind powered trucks? geothermal fishing trawlers?) Thus the cap must thus reduce production.
This throttling of our key industries by way of Emission ration permits will cause the first round of job layoffs.
Then comes the tax whammy.
Most industries will have to pay for their cap entitlement – ie they have to pay to do what they have previously been doing for free. Even after they have paid for production up to their rationed entitlement, any business which wishes to return to its pre-Rat scheme production levels (above the cap), must buy new ration permits in a speculative Emissions Permit market. This is another tax which has to be recovered from customers, other businesses or shareholders.
The first law of fiscal policy is this: “If you tax something, less of it will be produced.” This is the real aim of the RAT Scheme and it will achieve that aim.
There are always marginal businesses in all industries. An increase in taxes will cause a few of them to close their doors or move to a more enlightened country. And there are always nervous bankers ready to pull the plug because of the extra risk in the speculative carbon trading market.
In the green new world there is also no room for new projects or new jobs in traditional industries – any new project will need to force closure of an old project by buying its Ration permits on the market.
These new and uncertain taxes on existing production will cause the second round of job losses.
Even those businesses that survive the production cap, the ration fee and the excess carbon tax, will be forced to increase their prices to recoup the extra costs. This makes them less able to compete with imports in the Australian market, or with other exporters in the world market. Countries such as India, China, Brazil and South Africa, who have no intention of embracing the shackles of a RAT Scheme, will be the chief beneficiaries. Overseas is where the real new jobs will be created.
This unfair competition from foreign firms will cause the third round of jobs layoffs.
To date we have only looked at things from the perspective of existing industry.
There is also a whole gamut of global warming policies that will directly or indirectly subsidize regulators, inspectors, auditors, lawyers, bankers, carbon traders, international conferences, and the manufacture and operation of subsidised facilities such as wind farms, solar arrays, carbon forests and facilities granted exemptions from the costs everyone else must bear.
The second law of fiscal policy is this: “If you subsidise something, you will get more of it”.
We will thus get more of these costly subsidised things – the Climate Change Industry looks like becoming the biggest industry in the world. It will compete with real industry for materials, labour and rationed energy, but will not put cheaper food on our plate, cheaper or more reliable electricity into the grid or make a net contribution to tax revenue.
The growing costs of the Climate Change Industry must filter back to the real economy, causing more job layoffs.
Three places in the world have already tested the Green Job Creation Myth – Spain and Denmark with massive wind and solar power developments and California which tries to lead the world in everything green.
All three have seen loss of jobs as industries close or relocate because of costly or unreliable electricity supply. A recent study in Spain has concluded that more than 2 real jobs were destroyed for every green job created. In addition Spain has 17% unemployment, electricity shortages, and power costs up by from 30% (homes) to 100% (businesses). Denmark is selling unreliable wind power at a loss, and California’s climate madness has caused a huge loss of jobs and tax revenue.
Surely Australia can learn from the mistakes of others and refuse to pass this dangerous legislation.
For more information on Green Job destruction in Spain see:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzFlO6Bk-C0&feature=player_embedded
Viv Forbes Chairman
The Carbon Sense Coalition
MS 23 Rosewood Qld Australia 4340
0754 640 533 info@carbon-sense.com
Sunday, June 14, 2009
Following Prof Plimer's Heaven + Earth, Emeritus Professor Garth Paltridge's "The Climate Caper"
“Carbon Sense” Viv Forbes
June 2009
The Climate Caper
Another book written by a senior Australian Scientist, Garth Paltridge, is about to published by the same people who published Ian Plimer’s best seller “Heaven and Earth”.
This is what the publisher has to say:
“So you think the theory of disastrous climate change has been proved! You believe that scientists are united in their efforts to force the nations of the world to reduce their carbon emissions! You imagine perhaps that scientists are far too professional to overstate their case!
“Maybe we should all think again. In his book The Climate Caper, with a light touch and nicely readable manner, Professor Paltridge shows that the case for action against climate change is not nearly so certain as is presented to politicians and the public. He leads us through the massive uncertainties which are inherently part of the ‘climate modelling process’; he examines the even greater uncertainties associated with economic forecasts of climatic doom; and he discusses in detail the conscious and sub-conscious forces operating to ensure that scepticism within the scientific community is kept from the public eye.
I have not yet read "The Climate Caper” but Ray Evans has, and had this to say:
“Having read the manuscript I can endorse this book without reservation. It is written by a scientist who was at the top of the scientific establishment in Australia, and who saw at first hand the intellectual corruption which went hand in hand with government funding of science "research".
“The book is written in a whimsical style, reminiscent of P G Wodehouse, and is difficult to put down.”
About the author
Emeritus Professor Garth Paltridge is an atmospheric physicist and was a Chief Research Scientist with the CSIRO Division of Atmospheric Research before taking up positions in Tasmania as Director of the Institute of Antarctic and Southern Ocean Studies and CEO of the Antarctic Cooperative Research Centre.
His research ranged from the optimum design of plants to the economics of climate forecasting. He is best known internationally for work on atmospheric radiation and the theoretical basis of climate. He is a fellow of the Australian Academy of Science.
He was in industry for a while as Director of the Environmental Executive of the Institute of Petroleum. He spent various separate years overseas in postings concerned with research or research administration - in the UK, Geneva, New Mexico, Colorado and Washington D.C. In Geneva he was involved in the early development of the World Climate Program. In Washington he was with the US National Climate Program Office at the time of the establishment of the IPCC.
To order :
http://www.connorcourt.com/catalog1/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=29&products_id=113
June 2009
The Climate Caper
Another book written by a senior Australian Scientist, Garth Paltridge, is about to published by the same people who published Ian Plimer’s best seller “Heaven and Earth”.
This is what the publisher has to say:
“So you think the theory of disastrous climate change has been proved! You believe that scientists are united in their efforts to force the nations of the world to reduce their carbon emissions! You imagine perhaps that scientists are far too professional to overstate their case!
“Maybe we should all think again. In his book The Climate Caper, with a light touch and nicely readable manner, Professor Paltridge shows that the case for action against climate change is not nearly so certain as is presented to politicians and the public. He leads us through the massive uncertainties which are inherently part of the ‘climate modelling process’; he examines the even greater uncertainties associated with economic forecasts of climatic doom; and he discusses in detail the conscious and sub-conscious forces operating to ensure that scepticism within the scientific community is kept from the public eye.
I have not yet read "The Climate Caper” but Ray Evans has, and had this to say:
“Having read the manuscript I can endorse this book without reservation. It is written by a scientist who was at the top of the scientific establishment in Australia, and who saw at first hand the intellectual corruption which went hand in hand with government funding of science "research".
“The book is written in a whimsical style, reminiscent of P G Wodehouse, and is difficult to put down.”
About the author
Emeritus Professor Garth Paltridge is an atmospheric physicist and was a Chief Research Scientist with the CSIRO Division of Atmospheric Research before taking up positions in Tasmania as Director of the Institute of Antarctic and Southern Ocean Studies and CEO of the Antarctic Cooperative Research Centre.
His research ranged from the optimum design of plants to the economics of climate forecasting. He is best known internationally for work on atmospheric radiation and the theoretical basis of climate. He is a fellow of the Australian Academy of Science.
He was in industry for a while as Director of the Environmental Executive of the Institute of Petroleum. He spent various separate years overseas in postings concerned with research or research administration - in the UK, Geneva, New Mexico, Colorado and Washington D.C. In Geneva he was involved in the early development of the World Climate Program. In Washington he was with the US National Climate Program Office at the time of the establishment of the IPCC.
To order :
http://www.connorcourt.com/catalog1/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=29&products_id=113
Tuesday, June 9, 2009
White House not interested in Evidence re AGW!!!
From Melbourne Newspaper - The Age.
Fielding's climate mission. Adam Morton June 6, 2009.
Quote: "THE fact-finding mission to the US of Family First senator Steve Fielding has culminated in him giving senior White House staff graphs provided by climate change sceptics and asking why he should not believe them." ....
"Senator Fielding said he found that Dr Aldy and other Obama Administration officials were not interested in discussing the legitimacy of climate science."
Looks like the White House (NOW) is not interested in evidence. Kevin Rudd, Penny Wong, Malcolm Turnbull all agree NOT to look at the evidence.
How STUPID are our politicians? At least they should say: "Thank you. I will look at that and considered it."
NO! It's case closed. Idiots.
Fielding's climate mission. Adam Morton June 6, 2009.
Quote: "THE fact-finding mission to the US of Family First senator Steve Fielding has culminated in him giving senior White House staff graphs provided by climate change sceptics and asking why he should not believe them." ....
"Senator Fielding said he found that Dr Aldy and other Obama Administration officials were not interested in discussing the legitimacy of climate science."
Looks like the White House (NOW) is not interested in evidence. Kevin Rudd, Penny Wong, Malcolm Turnbull all agree NOT to look at the evidence.
How STUPID are our politicians? At least they should say: "Thank you. I will look at that and considered it."
NO! It's case closed. Idiots.
New Climate Change Minister already puts foot in mouth
From the Australian: Patricia Karvelas, Political correspondent | June 09, 2009
Mr Combet is reported as saying: "....the government has ...taken into account obviously the findings of the IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change), which is obviously considered the international body of scientific evidence about climate change.."
If Mr Combet has read the "Summary for Policy Makers" issued by the IPCC, (to paraphrase)
"which is obviously considered the small body of political spin about climate change.."
he is deluded. He is as Wrong as Ms Wong.
Mr Combet is reported as saying: "....the government has ...taken into account obviously the findings of the IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change), which is obviously considered the international body of scientific evidence about climate change.."
If Mr Combet has read the "Summary for Policy Makers" issued by the IPCC, (to paraphrase)
"which is obviously considered the small body of political spin about climate change.."
he is deluded. He is as Wrong as Ms Wong.
Friday, June 5, 2009
'At what point do we jail or execute global warming deniers'
Traitor brought himself down
From the Canberra Times: 5/6/09
Dumped Defence Minister has blamed traitors for his political demise after he became the first ministerial casualty since the Rudd Government took power.
He tried to get his brother's company NIB and US health giant Humana an unfair advantage on a defence contract!
''At that point I thought I was sailing too close to the edge in terms of the ... ministerial code of conduct,'' Mr Fitzgibbon said.
(Mr Fitzgibbon has blamed traitors for his political demise after he became the first ministerial casualty since the Rudd Government took power.)
Turnnng your back on the Australian people by not having open access to defence contracts could be deemed traiterous, Mr Fitzgibbon, so, why are whistleblowers exposing you traitors? Shame on you!
Dumped Defence Minister has blamed traitors for his political demise after he became the first ministerial casualty since the Rudd Government took power.
He tried to get his brother's company NIB and US health giant Humana an unfair advantage on a defence contract!
''At that point I thought I was sailing too close to the edge in terms of the ... ministerial code of conduct,'' Mr Fitzgibbon said.
(Mr Fitzgibbon has blamed traitors for his political demise after he became the first ministerial casualty since the Rudd Government took power.)
Turnnng your back on the Australian people by not having open access to defence contracts could be deemed traiterous, Mr Fitzgibbon, so, why are whistleblowers exposing you traitors? Shame on you!
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ABC TV doesn't know what they are talking about!
On Lateline 3 June 06 - both Tony Jones and Michael Rowland showed the didn't know what the were talking about.
Tony Introduced the segment with: "Independent Senator Steve Fielding says his attendance at a climate change sceptics' conference in the US has given him plenty of food for thought."
Michael Rowland followed up with: "This conference of climate change sceptics has been organised by the conservative Heartland Institute, a group that insists global warming is not a crisis."
If they did just a little research, they would have found that the scientists at the Conference all know that Climate is changing, in fact, they know that climate has always changed.
They also know that the AGW alarmists have not shown any proof to back up their claim of anthropogenic global warming.
WAKE UP JONESY!
Tony Introduced the segment with: "Independent Senator Steve Fielding says his attendance at a climate change sceptics' conference in the US has given him plenty of food for thought."
Michael Rowland followed up with: "This conference of climate change sceptics has been organised by the conservative Heartland Institute, a group that insists global warming is not a crisis."
If they did just a little research, they would have found that the scientists at the Conference all know that Climate is changing, in fact, they know that climate has always changed.
They also know that the AGW alarmists have not shown any proof to back up their claim of anthropogenic global warming.
WAKE UP JONESY!
Wednesday, June 3, 2009
French "Spiderman" Comic Book Hero climbs Sydney Building
He calls himself Spiderman - a comic book character and he suffers from vertigo??? A spin Doctor? He apologised for any disruption he caused, but said he was motivated by his campaign to raise awareness about global warming.
As Al Gore says: "Do these go together? It's complicated."
Al Gore promotes the falsehood of Anthropgenic Global Warming to line his pockets from Speaking Fees and, even more, from trading in Carbon Credits. Does this clown "Spiderman" do it for money?
I don't think Kevin Rudd believes it anymore, Al "Do these go together? It's complicated" Gore must have known that if he put those two graphs together they would show that CO2 rises followed Global temperature rises.
The Frenchman admitted he suffers vertigo - a condition characterised by dizziness...
Ahha! Dizziness, that explains it. He confuses Climate Change with CLIMB-IT change!
As Al Gore says: "Do these go together? It's complicated."
Al Gore promotes the falsehood of Anthropgenic Global Warming to line his pockets from Speaking Fees and, even more, from trading in Carbon Credits. Does this clown "Spiderman" do it for money?
I don't think Kevin Rudd believes it anymore, Al "Do these go together? It's complicated" Gore must have known that if he put those two graphs together they would show that CO2 rises followed Global temperature rises.
The Frenchman admitted he suffers vertigo - a condition characterised by dizziness...
Ahha! Dizziness, that explains it. He confuses Climate Change with CLIMB-IT change!
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Sunday, May 31, 2009
Penny Wong Wrong Again
We already knew that Penny Wong was not up on her science knowledge, but today, on Sunday with Laurie Oakes, she showed her lack of mathematics. In response to a question on the Murray Darling Basin, she said in part: "We're facing an unprecedented challenge here, Laurie. In the last three years, the long term - the average inflows into the system are about one-fifth of what they are on average."
What?
"...the average inflows into the system are about one-fifth of what they are on average."
Maybe could I add that the average accuracy of her answers on global warming are about one-fifth of what they are on average?
What?
"...the average inflows into the system are about one-fifth of what they are on average."
Maybe could I add that the average accuracy of her answers on global warming are about one-fifth of what they are on average?
Ex- Union Boss threatens industry
From the article in the Brisbane Times datelined: May 31, 2009 - 11:09AM"
"Parliamentary secretary for climate change Greg Combet last week warned that business could lose out on assistance if the (CPRS)scheme had to be rewritten next year."
Using Unions tactics threatening business.
You can take the Combet out of the Unions but you can't take the....etc
"Parliamentary secretary for climate change Greg Combet last week warned that business could lose out on assistance if the (CPRS)scheme had to be rewritten next year."
Using Unions tactics threatening business.
You can take the Combet out of the Unions but you can't take the....etc
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Saturday, May 30, 2009
Space Junk Painted white to save planet
Following on from a previous report that the Obama administration to shoot junk into space to block the sun-light, (the first space litterer?) now we have Steven Chu, a Nobel-winning physicist running the Obama Energy Department, suggested this week that — in terms of the greenhouse effect — painting roofs and bleaching road surfaces worldwide would have the same impact as taking every car off the road for more than a decade.
What about going one step further and painting the upper side of the junk white to reflect the sun?
Are we sure he won the Nobel Prize? Oh, yeah, so did Al Gore.
What about going one step further and painting the upper side of the junk white to reflect the sun?
Are we sure he won the Nobel Prize? Oh, yeah, so did Al Gore.
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Thursday, May 21, 2009
Poor PM Rudd doesn't understand budget
From a Radio interview on Sydney Am Station 2GB today.
ALAN JONES:
Indicating that he doesn't really understand the figures but he said "the debt would peak at a gross figure of 13.8 which comes out at about 300" so they won't use the word billion or whatever but the statement is completely wrong because a gross figure of 13.8 there has been no value attached to that in the Budget at all. The 300 that he is talking about of course is what it is going to be in this cycle who says at the end of four years.
MR COSTELLO:
It is all true. Now let me give you another example. I was in the Budget Speech in the House of Representatives on the Tuesday night. The Budget Speech was delivered to all of us. I flicked through it looking for the bottom line. Now Mr Swan did not mention what he was budgeting for.
Marvellous, a PM who doesn't understand his own budget, a PM who crosses out employee shares whislt his filthy rich wife uses this very good incentive with her own staff.
When will the public wake up?
ALAN JONES:
Indicating that he doesn't really understand the figures but he said "the debt would peak at a gross figure of 13.8 which comes out at about 300" so they won't use the word billion or whatever but the statement is completely wrong because a gross figure of 13.8 there has been no value attached to that in the Budget at all. The 300 that he is talking about of course is what it is going to be in this cycle who says at the end of four years.
MR COSTELLO:
It is all true. Now let me give you another example. I was in the Budget Speech in the House of Representatives on the Tuesday night. The Budget Speech was delivered to all of us. I flicked through it looking for the bottom line. Now Mr Swan did not mention what he was budgeting for.
Marvellous, a PM who doesn't understand his own budget, a PM who crosses out employee shares whislt his filthy rich wife uses this very good incentive with her own staff.
When will the public wake up?
Labels:
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Therese Rein
Monday, May 18, 2009
More Uninformed comment from Gair Rhydd
From Gair Rhydd - Cardiff's student weekly:
What are they teaching the students of Cardiff? This arcticle says that MELTING SEA ICE could cause a rise in sea levels (yep, RISE!) and immerse cities such as New York and London under water.
Science 101: Put an ice cube in a glass of water, mark the level and check the level after the ice has melted.
Sheesh!
What are they teaching the students of Cardiff? This arcticle says that MELTING SEA ICE could cause a rise in sea levels (yep, RISE!) and immerse cities such as New York and London under water.
Science 101: Put an ice cube in a glass of water, mark the level and check the level after the ice has melted.
Sheesh!
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Friday, May 15, 2009
Give global warming sceptics a voice
Very interesting article in the Atlanta JC by J Winston Power
"The “science is settled” side is pushing massive plans in Congress to reduce carbon dioxide. But the science is not settled. If it were, we would have great confidence in all these statements:
1. The world is getting warmer.
2. That’s more bad than good.
3. Humans are causing the warming.
4. We know how to fix the problem.
We-ell, Is the world getting warmer. It warmed as it came out of the little ice age around 1850. During the 20th Century it warmed about 0.6ºC and from 2007 to 2008 it cooled by o.6ºC. In fact the world has been cooling since Al Gore's 41 Inconveniet Lies movie was released.
2 - Warmer is better.
3.- Unproven
4.- What problem???
"The “science is settled” side is pushing massive plans in Congress to reduce carbon dioxide. But the science is not settled. If it were, we would have great confidence in all these statements:
1. The world is getting warmer.
2. That’s more bad than good.
3. Humans are causing the warming.
4. We know how to fix the problem.
We-ell, Is the world getting warmer. It warmed as it came out of the little ice age around 1850. During the 20th Century it warmed about 0.6ºC and from 2007 to 2008 it cooled by o.6ºC. In fact the world has been cooling since Al Gore's 41 Inconveniet Lies movie was released.
2 - Warmer is better.
3.- Unproven
4.- What problem???
Labels:
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Al Gore,
Global Cooling,
Global Warming
Friday, May 8, 2009
Press Release by Viv Forbes - Carbon Sense Coalition
Press Release by Viv Forbes BScApp FAusIMM FSIA
Chairman The Carbon Sense Coalition
MS 23 Rosewood Qld 4340
0754 640 533
info@carbon-sense.com
Introducing Carbon Cops and Narks.
“Giving to any government the power to monitor, control or put a tax on carbon emissions is giving that government the power to monitor, control and tax any or every aspect of human life it may choose to invade.
“Let’s not be fooled by being told by politicians and bureaucrats that their carbon trading scheme will merely start with a few big carbon emitters, whilst the farming sector or other sensitive sectors of the community will be left out in the first stage of this thoroughly anti-human process.
“Once we accept the principle that carbon should be monitored, controlled and taxed, we open the door to the most invasive kind of bureaucratic meddling, and to all the carbon pimps, snoops, cops and narks who want to stick their noses into every aspect of the way we live, whether it is the kind of car we drive, our holiday destinations, our pleasure boat, or even the food miles accrued in our choice of food.”
Bob Brimsmead “An Irrational Fear of Carbon”.
We recommend you check out the full article at:
http://www.bobbrinsmead.com/e_An_Irrational_Fear_of_Carbon.html
The Future of Carbon Caps and Taxes.
We don’t want to postpone the Cap-N-Tax Bill, we want to kill it. We certainly do not want it passed into law now.
The worst thing that could happen is still a possibility – so many concessions, exemptions and compromises are agreed that the Cap-N-Tax bill is passed by the Senate. All the bureaucracy, regulations and reporting will become law, but there will be no immediate obvious economic effects. Then, once the inmates get used to the handcuffs, the screws will tighten – exemptions will gradually disappear, permits will cost more, caps will be reduced, green subsidies will increase. By then the whole thing will become ingrained, with a whole climate change industry of vested interests created. We will never get rid of it, even long after the idea of global warming is forgotten. So we need to redouble efforts to get our message out: “Kill this bill now and make sure it stays dead”.
Please help us by sending this message to friends, associates, media and politicians – preferably to a different/bigger group from last time.
Viv Forbes
Chairman The Carbon Sense Coalition
MS 23 Rosewood Qld 4340
0754 640 533
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Introducing Carbon Cops and Narks.
“Giving to any government the power to monitor, control or put a tax on carbon emissions is giving that government the power to monitor, control and tax any or every aspect of human life it may choose to invade.
“Let’s not be fooled by being told by politicians and bureaucrats that their carbon trading scheme will merely start with a few big carbon emitters, whilst the farming sector or other sensitive sectors of the community will be left out in the first stage of this thoroughly anti-human process.
“Once we accept the principle that carbon should be monitored, controlled and taxed, we open the door to the most invasive kind of bureaucratic meddling, and to all the carbon pimps, snoops, cops and narks who want to stick their noses into every aspect of the way we live, whether it is the kind of car we drive, our holiday destinations, our pleasure boat, or even the food miles accrued in our choice of food.”
Bob Brimsmead “An Irrational Fear of Carbon”.
We recommend you check out the full article at:
http://www.bobbrinsmead.com/e_An_Irrational_Fear_of_Carbon.html
The Future of Carbon Caps and Taxes.
We don’t want to postpone the Cap-N-Tax Bill, we want to kill it. We certainly do not want it passed into law now.
The worst thing that could happen is still a possibility – so many concessions, exemptions and compromises are agreed that the Cap-N-Tax bill is passed by the Senate. All the bureaucracy, regulations and reporting will become law, but there will be no immediate obvious economic effects. Then, once the inmates get used to the handcuffs, the screws will tighten – exemptions will gradually disappear, permits will cost more, caps will be reduced, green subsidies will increase. By then the whole thing will become ingrained, with a whole climate change industry of vested interests created. We will never get rid of it, even long after the idea of global warming is forgotten. So we need to redouble efforts to get our message out: “Kill this bill now and make sure it stays dead”.
Please help us by sending this message to friends, associates, media and politicians – preferably to a different/bigger group from last time.
Viv Forbes
Rudd doesn't blow his top - but does! Wobbly#2
From the Daily Telegraph:
"The Prime Minister - who tore strips of an RAAF flight attendant over food service on a VIP flight - reportedly became agitated when Diggers couldn't locate a hairdryer for a photo opportunity."
Dear-oh-dear, because he couldn't blow his top...he blew his top
"The Prime Minister - who tore strips of an RAAF flight attendant over food service on a VIP flight - reportedly became agitated when Diggers couldn't locate a hairdryer for a photo opportunity."
Dear-oh-dear, because he couldn't blow his top...he blew his top
Thursday, May 7, 2009
Ms Wong Wrong again!
In an interview with "Webnewswire" Ms Wong, who didn't complete schoolgirl science, nonetheless created some schoolgirl-like howlers.
1 We think it’s in the national interest to try and secure a global agreement we know Australia needs....Well, we all know, even you MS Wong, that a global agreement will never happen. And why do you think that Australia needs a Global Agreement?
2 Carbon Pollution - oxymoron.
3. I think it is disappointing that Mr Turnbull continues not to listen to business calls for certainty... Like you, Ms Wong, Mr Turnbull will not listen to calls to look at the science rather than the political spin - IPCC; Al Gore etc see http: climatesceptics.com.au
4...not to listen to the science....Hello-o-o, who's not listening to the science Ms Wrong er Wong!
5...and to environmentalists who say we need a plan in place to reduce our carbon emissions... The Crazy environmentalists, yes. Ms. Wong, look at listentous.org.au. It is an anti ETS website set up by environmentalists - The Australian Environment Foundation - a different kind of environment group caring for both Australia and Australians.
1 We think it’s in the national interest to try and secure a global agreement we know Australia needs....Well, we all know, even you MS Wong, that a global agreement will never happen. And why do you think that Australia needs a Global Agreement?
2 Carbon Pollution - oxymoron.
3. I think it is disappointing that Mr Turnbull continues not to listen to business calls for certainty... Like you, Ms Wong, Mr Turnbull will not listen to calls to look at the science rather than the political spin - IPCC; Al Gore etc see http: climatesceptics.com.au
4...not to listen to the science....Hello-o-o, who's not listening to the science Ms Wrong er Wong!
5...and to environmentalists who say we need a plan in place to reduce our carbon emissions... The Crazy environmentalists, yes. Ms. Wong, look at listentous.org.au. It is an anti ETS website set up by environmentalists - The Australian Environment Foundation - a different kind of environment group caring for both Australia and Australians.
KFC and the Budget Deficit
By a couple of back of the envelope calculations and bribe handouts of $900 and $1000 dollars, our amazing PM has managed to get his popularity to around 64%.
What has KFC got to do with it you say?
Well, it's Kev's Financial Crisis. And it has hit the fans. He now must start to get a pay-back - that's right he spent all our taxpayer dollars and is deeply in debt. So he must hit us in his budget next week. The filthy-rich Rudd will hit us where-ever he can.
But, Kevy, I have a solution. Close down the completely unnecessary Climate Change Departments and all its Clinging Qangos and all its handouts and you might almost wipe out your horrific deficit.
What has KFC got to do with it you say?
Well, it's Kev's Financial Crisis. And it has hit the fans. He now must start to get a pay-back - that's right he spent all our taxpayer dollars and is deeply in debt. So he must hit us in his budget next week. The filthy-rich Rudd will hit us where-ever he can.
But, Kevy, I have a solution. Close down the completely unnecessary Climate Change Departments and all its Clinging Qangos and all its handouts and you might almost wipe out your horrific deficit.
Tuesday, May 5, 2009
Rudd's Embarassing Back-down on ETS
On the 7:30 report, left wing journalists Kerry O'Brien and Michael Brissenden were mildly critical of left wing PM Rudd.
Kerry Oh-Oh-Oh- O'Brien:
"Having said repeatedly that he would not delay the introduction of his carbon pollution reduction scheme next year, the Prime Minister announced today that he would be doing precisely that, putting it off until mid 2011, and softening the cost of the scheme for business until mid 2012."
Michael Brissenden:
"The Government had planned to begin implementing its carbon pollution reduction scheme by the middle of next year. Just last December the Prime Minister said a delay to that timetable would be reckless and irresponsible, bad for the economy and the environment. But yesterday's definitive position it seems is not necessarily suited to today's realities."
Slap on the wrist, PM!
And the Left wing ABC whose editorial policy says:
The board requires the ABC to demonstrate impartiality in two ways:
1. ….the board requires impartiality at the content or program level….
2…This means that while individual items of content can take a particular perspective on an issue, the ABC must be able to demonstrate at the platform level that it has provided its audience with a range of different perspectives on the subject under consideration. …..
Well, ABC, where is the the different perspective? Where is the alternative view from the around 50% of the populace that believes, make that knows, that AGW is a big hoax and to inflict a Carbon (Dioxide) Pollution Reduction scheme is completely unnecessary?
Kerry Oh-Oh-Oh- O'Brien:
"Having said repeatedly that he would not delay the introduction of his carbon pollution reduction scheme next year, the Prime Minister announced today that he would be doing precisely that, putting it off until mid 2011, and softening the cost of the scheme for business until mid 2012."
Michael Brissenden:
"The Government had planned to begin implementing its carbon pollution reduction scheme by the middle of next year. Just last December the Prime Minister said a delay to that timetable would be reckless and irresponsible, bad for the economy and the environment. But yesterday's definitive position it seems is not necessarily suited to today's realities."
Slap on the wrist, PM!
And the Left wing ABC whose editorial policy says:
The board requires the ABC to demonstrate impartiality in two ways:
1. ….the board requires impartiality at the content or program level….
2…This means that while individual items of content can take a particular perspective on an issue, the ABC must be able to demonstrate at the platform level that it has provided its audience with a range of different perspectives on the subject under consideration. …..
Well, ABC, where is the the different perspective? Where is the alternative view from the around 50% of the populace that believes, make that knows, that AGW is a big hoax and to inflict a Carbon (Dioxide) Pollution Reduction scheme is completely unnecessary?
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Rudd and Wong and their embarassing backdown
Kerry OB on the 7:30 report quotes Kevin 747 Rudd in the middle of the KFC (Kev's Financial Crisis)
"Penny Wong, it's only a few months ago in mid December that the Prime Minister said, and I'll quote, "It would be reckless and irresponsible for our economy and for our environment," to delay the introduction of your carbon emissions trading scheme."
and goes on to mention an embarassing U-turn.
Penny says inter-alia: ..."very significant global economic recession"... and ..."very substantial global economic crisis"
and between these she says: "...what we're trying to do is to shift Australia to a low-pollution economy."
A very noble aim, Penny, and I'm sure that there is not one Australian that would agree with a low-pollution economy. But, how do you pollute an economy?
Then MS Wong blows it! "....if you don't put in place a mechanism to reduce your carbon (dioxide) pollution..." Please explain?
Can you show us, Ms Wong, who didn't even do high school science, one bit of scientific evidence that shows carbon dioxide is pollution?
Then Kerry Oh-Oh-Oh- O'Brien says (timidly?) "Dare I suggest that this policy back flip has been framed as a political exercise for the next election?"
Another Hard-hitting interview from a hard hitting left wing journalist to a left wing politician on a left wing station that sponsors a left wing think tank AusSMC.
"Penny Wong, it's only a few months ago in mid December that the Prime Minister said, and I'll quote, "It would be reckless and irresponsible for our economy and for our environment," to delay the introduction of your carbon emissions trading scheme."
and goes on to mention an embarassing U-turn.
Penny says inter-alia: ..."very significant global economic recession"... and ..."very substantial global economic crisis"
and between these she says: "...what we're trying to do is to shift Australia to a low-pollution economy."
A very noble aim, Penny, and I'm sure that there is not one Australian that would agree with a low-pollution economy. But, how do you pollute an economy?
Then MS Wong blows it! "....if you don't put in place a mechanism to reduce your carbon (dioxide) pollution..." Please explain?
Can you show us, Ms Wong, who didn't even do high school science, one bit of scientific evidence that shows carbon dioxide is pollution?
Then Kerry Oh-Oh-Oh- O'Brien says (timidly?) "Dare I suggest that this policy back flip has been framed as a political exercise for the next election?"
Another Hard-hitting interview from a hard hitting left wing journalist to a left wing politician on a left wing station that sponsors a left wing think tank AusSMC.
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Monday, April 27, 2009
Rudd treats Australians with contempt
Why is it that Rudd rhymes with dud?
Our second most popular Prime Minister gained much of his popularity by handing out $900 and $1,000 bribes from taxpayers funds and borrowed funds. Loans all taxpayers will have to repay. He lied his way into office by stating that he was a fiscal conservative and told lies about his family background.
Now he has gone further, as the Canberra Times reports:
" Ministers are required to answer parliamentarians' questions on notice within 30 days. The document details questions about Resource Minister Martin Ferguson's overseas travel and the number of media and communications staff employed in his department. In one case, the Resources Department sent its response to the Department of the Prime Minster and Cabinet on November 21 last year, but MrRudd's office has still not cleared the answer.
The shadow Special Minister of State, Michael Ronaldson, said the Prime Minister was treating Parliament and the public with contempt.
'This is an absolute disgrace,' he said yesterday.'Here we have a Government preaching openness and transparency, but deliberately hiding embarrassing information. Once again, this Government demonstrates that it runs on spin and hypocrisy' "
Vote for Rudd - get a dud!
Our second most popular Prime Minister gained much of his popularity by handing out $900 and $1,000 bribes from taxpayers funds and borrowed funds. Loans all taxpayers will have to repay. He lied his way into office by stating that he was a fiscal conservative and told lies about his family background.
Now he has gone further, as the Canberra Times reports:
" Ministers are required to answer parliamentarians' questions on notice within 30 days. The document details questions about Resource Minister Martin Ferguson's overseas travel and the number of media and communications staff employed in his department. In one case, the Resources Department sent its response to the Department of the Prime Minster and Cabinet on November 21 last year, but MrRudd's office has still not cleared the answer.
The shadow Special Minister of State, Michael Ronaldson, said the Prime Minister was treating Parliament and the public with contempt.
'This is an absolute disgrace,' he said yesterday.'Here we have a Government preaching openness and transparency, but deliberately hiding embarrassing information. Once again, this Government demonstrates that it runs on spin and hypocrisy' "
Vote for Rudd - get a dud!
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Saturday, April 25, 2009
Professor Robert Manne gets his facts wrong again
In an opinion piece in the Anzac Day issue of the Australian, Professor Manne gets his facts wrong again. For some previous errors of truth by Manne see Paul Sheehan's excellent book "Among the Barbarians."
Some errors in his article:
• (Ian Plimer) describes the entire climate science community as "the forces of darkness"
Think about it, Robert. Is he calling himself a part of the "forces of darkness?" Are all the scientists that he refers to part of the "forces of darkness?" on the other hand, are you, Professor Manne (a non-scientist) part of the "Forces of darkness?"
• The work of these scientists has been summarised in four cautious reports of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. In the most recent, the IPCC argued that the evidence for human causation of climate change was unequivocal.
Well, not quite unequivocal, Professor. They actually said "very high confidence" which represents at least a 9 out of 10 chance
of being correct. Mind you in the same report they also said "Warming of the climate system is unequivocal." Warming is a bit different to man-made or as you say "human causation" warming.
These IPCC "scientists" also said in their AR4: "Carbon dioxide is the most important anthropogenic greenhouse gas." That is correct, if they pay no regard to water vapour. Science tells us that the most important greenhouse gases are:
water vapor, which contributes 36–72%
carbon dioxide, which contributes 9–26%
methane, which contributes 4–9%
ozone, which contributes 3–7%
• Many regard the work of the tens of thousands of climate change scientists as fraudulent and the IPCC as a sinister and vast international conspiracy.
Hey, Prof, you got that right. If you read the fourth Assessment report, and the science in the reports behind the Summary for Policymakers, you will find that the Summary for Policymakers is not supported by the science. If you call that a conspiracy, then so-be-it. As to the "tens of thousands of climate change scientists" - how many of them are independant of Government Grants?
• In the other camp are a few dozen scientists.
Wrong again - As an example, Professor, just google "petitionproject.org" more than 30,000 scientists, look also at the International Climate Science Coalition, The Australian Climate Science Coalition, The New Zealand Climate Science Coalition.
See also www.climatesceptics.com.au
How can one learned Professor get it so wrong, so often?
Some errors in his article:
• (Ian Plimer) describes the entire climate science community as "the forces of darkness"
Think about it, Robert. Is he calling himself a part of the "forces of darkness?" Are all the scientists that he refers to part of the "forces of darkness?" on the other hand, are you, Professor Manne (a non-scientist) part of the "Forces of darkness?"
• The work of these scientists has been summarised in four cautious reports of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. In the most recent, the IPCC argued that the evidence for human causation of climate change was unequivocal.
Well, not quite unequivocal, Professor. They actually said "very high confidence" which represents at least a 9 out of 10 chance
of being correct. Mind you in the same report they also said "Warming of the climate system is unequivocal." Warming is a bit different to man-made or as you say "human causation" warming.
These IPCC "scientists" also said in their AR4: "Carbon dioxide is the most important anthropogenic greenhouse gas." That is correct, if they pay no regard to water vapour. Science tells us that the most important greenhouse gases are:
water vapor, which contributes 36–72%
carbon dioxide, which contributes 9–26%
methane, which contributes 4–9%
ozone, which contributes 3–7%
• Many regard the work of the tens of thousands of climate change scientists as fraudulent and the IPCC as a sinister and vast international conspiracy.
Hey, Prof, you got that right. If you read the fourth Assessment report, and the science in the reports behind the Summary for Policymakers, you will find that the Summary for Policymakers is not supported by the science. If you call that a conspiracy, then so-be-it. As to the "tens of thousands of climate change scientists" - how many of them are independant of Government Grants?
• In the other camp are a few dozen scientists.
Wrong again - As an example, Professor, just google "petitionproject.org" more than 30,000 scientists, look also at the International Climate Science Coalition, The Australian Climate Science Coalition, The New Zealand Climate Science Coalition.
See also www.climatesceptics.com.au
How can one learned Professor get it so wrong, so often?
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Peter Garrett keeps his head above water
Did Greg Roberts intend the pun when he said:
FEDERAL Environment Minister Peter Garrett has moved to water down his claim that sea levels could rise by 6m as a result of the melting of Antarctic ice.
Opposition environment spokesman Greg Hunt said Mr Garrett had been alarmist. "...but using alarmist and patently wrong information to back his case will do nothing to instil confidence in his arguments," hesaid. "If Mr Garrett is going to get it so wrong on sea-level rises, how can people have confidence in comments he makes on glacier melts?"
Interesting, because most glaciers in the world are now advancing
James Cook University geophysicist Bob Carter said Mr Garrett's claims were typical of the political misinformation surrounding the global warming debate. "Like Al Gore and the other dark greens that they seek to mollify, politicians completely fail to comprehend that we live on a dynamic planet Earth," Professor Carter said.
Definition from RITA (Research and Innovation Technology Administration):
Ice Shelf: Seaward extension of an ice sheet, floating but attached to the land on at least one side and bounded on the seaward side by a steep cliff rising 2 to 50 m or more above sea level.
If a floating ice shelf melts, sea level will not rise, Peter.
Facts from Landcare Research:
• Antarctica is the 5th biggest continent and 10% of the earth's land area.
• Antarctica's total area is 14 million km2 In summer, there is another 2.5 million km2 of sea ice, which increases to 19 million km2 in winter, more than doubling the size of Antarctica!
• Antarctic ice which at its thickest reaches 5 km in depth, comprises almost 70% of the earth's fresh water.
• Antarctica has the lowest recorded temperature; -90°C at Vostock in 1983. Inland, temperatures range from -70°C in winter to -35°C in summer. Corresponding figures for coastal regions are -30°C and 0°C.
It is a rare occasion when the temperature rises above freezing, so most melting must come from rises in ocean temperature.
FEDERAL Environment Minister Peter Garrett has moved to water down his claim that sea levels could rise by 6m as a result of the melting of Antarctic ice.
Opposition environment spokesman Greg Hunt said Mr Garrett had been alarmist. "...but using alarmist and patently wrong information to back his case will do nothing to instil confidence in his arguments," hesaid. "If Mr Garrett is going to get it so wrong on sea-level rises, how can people have confidence in comments he makes on glacier melts?"
Interesting, because most glaciers in the world are now advancing
James Cook University geophysicist Bob Carter said Mr Garrett's claims were typical of the political misinformation surrounding the global warming debate. "Like Al Gore and the other dark greens that they seek to mollify, politicians completely fail to comprehend that we live on a dynamic planet Earth," Professor Carter said.
Definition from RITA (Research and Innovation Technology Administration):
Ice Shelf: Seaward extension of an ice sheet, floating but attached to the land on at least one side and bounded on the seaward side by a steep cliff rising 2 to 50 m or more above sea level.
If a floating ice shelf melts, sea level will not rise, Peter.
Facts from Landcare Research:
• Antarctica is the 5th biggest continent and 10% of the earth's land area.
• Antarctica's total area is 14 million km2 In summer, there is another 2.5 million km2 of sea ice, which increases to 19 million km2 in winter, more than doubling the size of Antarctica!
• Antarctic ice which at its thickest reaches 5 km in depth, comprises almost 70% of the earth's fresh water.
• Antarctica has the lowest recorded temperature; -90°C at Vostock in 1983. Inland, temperatures range from -70°C in winter to -35°C in summer. Corresponding figures for coastal regions are -30°C and 0°C.
It is a rare occasion when the temperature rises above freezing, so most melting must come from rises in ocean temperature.
Alarmists show cowardly colours
Marc Morano reports that after UK's Lord Christopher Monckton, a former science advisor to Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher had flown from England to appear at the House Energy and Commerce hearing on Friday.
Monckton said he was informed that he would not be allowed to testify alongside Gore when his plane landed from England Thursday afternoon.
“The House Democrats don't want Gore humiliated, so they slammed the door of the Capitol in my face,” Monckton told Climate Depot in an exclusive interview. “They are cowards.”
“The Democrats have a lot to learn about the right of free speech under the US Constitution. Congress Henry Waxman's (D-CA) refusal to expose Al Gore's sci-fi comedy-horror testimony to proper, independent scrutiny by the House minority reeks of naked fear,” Monckton said from the airport Thursday evening.
As the science closes in on the hoaxing alarmists, they are getting more and more desperate. Will any reports be made about this in the Main Stream Media
Monckton said he was informed that he would not be allowed to testify alongside Gore when his plane landed from England Thursday afternoon.
“The House Democrats don't want Gore humiliated, so they slammed the door of the Capitol in my face,” Monckton told Climate Depot in an exclusive interview. “They are cowards.”
“The Democrats have a lot to learn about the right of free speech under the US Constitution. Congress Henry Waxman's (D-CA) refusal to expose Al Gore's sci-fi comedy-horror testimony to proper, independent scrutiny by the House minority reeks of naked fear,” Monckton said from the airport Thursday evening.
As the science closes in on the hoaxing alarmists, they are getting more and more desperate. Will any reports be made about this in the Main Stream Media
Saturday, April 18, 2009
Conflict between IPCC and NASA's GISS
In a report by The Associated Press 17 April 09 by Randolph E. Schmid.
IPCC lead researcher, Jonathan Overpeck of the University of Arizona said:
As global warming progresses, the increases in temperature may make the normal climate pattern more extreme, producing even more severe and prolonged droughts than those of the past.
This contrasts directly with a paper published in Journal of Climate 10 (December 1997.)
This paper showed that increased heat warmed the ocean, causing more evaporation and hence more precipitation. Seems simple to me Jonathan - over to you!
http://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/abstracts/1997/ Dai, A., I.Y. Fung, and A.D. Del Genio, 1997: Surface observed global land precipitation variations during 1900-1988. J. Climate, 10, 2943-2962, doi:10.1175/1520-0442(1997)010<2943:SOGLPV>2.0.CO;2.
IPCC lead researcher, Jonathan Overpeck of the University of Arizona said:
As global warming progresses, the increases in temperature may make the normal climate pattern more extreme, producing even more severe and prolonged droughts than those of the past.
This contrasts directly with a paper published in Journal of Climate 10 (December 1997.)
This paper showed that increased heat warmed the ocean, causing more evaporation and hence more precipitation. Seems simple to me Jonathan - over to you!
http://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/abstracts/1997/ Dai, A., I.Y. Fung, and A.D. Del Genio, 1997: Surface observed global land precipitation variations during 1900-1988. J. Climate, 10, 2943-2962, doi:10.1175/1520-0442(1997)010<2943:SOGLPV>2.0.CO;2.
New Scientist doesn't know the Old Science
From a report dated 13Apl2009 by Douglas Fox in New Scientist:
We know that Antarctica froze 35 million years ago, when its detachment from South America unleashed a circumpolar ocean current that isolated it from warmer parts of the world. What we do not know is whether its ice sheets have stayed frozen or melted and reformed many times since then.
It is an urgent question. Understanding how Antarctica's ice responded to past climate swings will help us to predict how it will react as temperatures rise in the coming decades. The mighty ice sheet covering West Antarctica could unleash enough water to raise sea levels by 5 metres were it to melt.
Andrill's results reveal a breathtaking picture. They show how the West Antarctic ice sheet has collapsed and regrown at least 60 times in the past few million years. Andrill predicts that it could once again tip toward collapse by the year 2100.
Hello? Didn't Mr Fox learn in Science 101 that the melting of FLOATING ice makes no difference to sea levels.
Update: "Didn't the coward that left an anonymous message, learn in Definitions 101 that an Ice Shelf is a thick floating platform of ice?
We know that Antarctica froze 35 million years ago, when its detachment from South America unleashed a circumpolar ocean current that isolated it from warmer parts of the world. What we do not know is whether its ice sheets have stayed frozen or melted and reformed many times since then.
It is an urgent question. Understanding how Antarctica's ice responded to past climate swings will help us to predict how it will react as temperatures rise in the coming decades. The mighty ice sheet covering West Antarctica could unleash enough water to raise sea levels by 5 metres were it to melt.
Andrill's results reveal a breathtaking picture. They show how the West Antarctic ice sheet has collapsed and regrown at least 60 times in the past few million years. Andrill predicts that it could once again tip toward collapse by the year 2100.
Hello? Didn't Mr Fox learn in Science 101 that the melting of FLOATING ice makes no difference to sea levels.
Update: "Didn't the coward that left an anonymous message, learn in Definitions 101 that an Ice Shelf is a thick floating platform of ice?
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