Climate sceptics are all red herrings and quackery....At least according to Penny Wong.
In an article in the National Times today, Ms Wong (in an address to the first national forum on coasts and climate change) said: "The reality is that the Copenhagen Accord is an important and welcome step toward an effective global agreement on climate change.
It saw, for the first time, leaders agree to hold any increase in global temperature below 2 degrees Celsius."
Oh, are they gods? Can they control the multi-facets of climate? The Vostok Ice-core samples show that temperature precedes rise in CO2 by 800+/-200 years. Can Ms Wong and her very large Climate Change Department change climate? It reeks of quackery to me!
She goes on to say: "Remember the people who have been barrackers for policy failure at home and abroad are the same people who have been peddling misinformation and misleading information about the science of climate change."
I almost agree with MS Wong on this one! Mind you, I would make a few small changes to her statement: Remember the people who have been barrackers for a Cap 'n' Trade scheme, both home and abroad, are the same people who have been peddling misinformation and misleading information about the science of climate change.
She goes on to issue some misleading information: "....facts like that 2009 was the second hottest year on record in Australia and the fifth hottest globally, and that 2009 finished the hottest decade in recorded history." She relies on the IPCC for her support but the IPCC AR4 has been greatly disputed. One of the lead authors of the IPCC, Mr Phil Jones, would dispute the statement that 2009 was the second hottest year on record.
There is a section on the Government's Climate Change Website called "Science - facts and fiction." Having read through that section, I could see the fiction but couldn't find the facts.
http://www.climatechange.gov.au/en/climate-change/science.aspx
Showing posts with label Penny Wong. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Penny Wong. Show all posts
Friday, February 19, 2010
Tuesday, June 9, 2009
White House not interested in Evidence re AGW!!!
From Melbourne Newspaper - The Age.
Fielding's climate mission. Adam Morton June 6, 2009.
Quote: "THE fact-finding mission to the US of Family First senator Steve Fielding has culminated in him giving senior White House staff graphs provided by climate change sceptics and asking why he should not believe them." ....
"Senator Fielding said he found that Dr Aldy and other Obama Administration officials were not interested in discussing the legitimacy of climate science."
Looks like the White House (NOW) is not interested in evidence. Kevin Rudd, Penny Wong, Malcolm Turnbull all agree NOT to look at the evidence.
How STUPID are our politicians? At least they should say: "Thank you. I will look at that and considered it."
NO! It's case closed. Idiots.
Fielding's climate mission. Adam Morton June 6, 2009.
Quote: "THE fact-finding mission to the US of Family First senator Steve Fielding has culminated in him giving senior White House staff graphs provided by climate change sceptics and asking why he should not believe them." ....
"Senator Fielding said he found that Dr Aldy and other Obama Administration officials were not interested in discussing the legitimacy of climate science."
Looks like the White House (NOW) is not interested in evidence. Kevin Rudd, Penny Wong, Malcolm Turnbull all agree NOT to look at the evidence.
How STUPID are our politicians? At least they should say: "Thank you. I will look at that and considered it."
NO! It's case closed. Idiots.
New Climate Change Minister already puts foot in mouth
From the Australian: Patricia Karvelas, Political correspondent | June 09, 2009
Mr Combet is reported as saying: "....the government has ...taken into account obviously the findings of the IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change), which is obviously considered the international body of scientific evidence about climate change.."
If Mr Combet has read the "Summary for Policy Makers" issued by the IPCC, (to paraphrase)
"which is obviously considered the small body of political spin about climate change.."
he is deluded. He is as Wrong as Ms Wong.
Mr Combet is reported as saying: "....the government has ...taken into account obviously the findings of the IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change), which is obviously considered the international body of scientific evidence about climate change.."
If Mr Combet has read the "Summary for Policy Makers" issued by the IPCC, (to paraphrase)
"which is obviously considered the small body of political spin about climate change.."
he is deluded. He is as Wrong as Ms Wong.
Sunday, May 31, 2009
Penny Wong Wrong Again
We already knew that Penny Wong was not up on her science knowledge, but today, on Sunday with Laurie Oakes, she showed her lack of mathematics. In response to a question on the Murray Darling Basin, she said in part: "We're facing an unprecedented challenge here, Laurie. In the last three years, the long term - the average inflows into the system are about one-fifth of what they are on average."
What?
"...the average inflows into the system are about one-fifth of what they are on average."
Maybe could I add that the average accuracy of her answers on global warming are about one-fifth of what they are on average?
What?
"...the average inflows into the system are about one-fifth of what they are on average."
Maybe could I add that the average accuracy of her answers on global warming are about one-fifth of what they are on average?
Thursday, May 7, 2009
Ms Wong Wrong again!
In an interview with "Webnewswire" Ms Wong, who didn't complete schoolgirl science, nonetheless created some schoolgirl-like howlers.
1 We think it’s in the national interest to try and secure a global agreement we know Australia needs....Well, we all know, even you MS Wong, that a global agreement will never happen. And why do you think that Australia needs a Global Agreement?
2 Carbon Pollution - oxymoron.
3. I think it is disappointing that Mr Turnbull continues not to listen to business calls for certainty... Like you, Ms Wong, Mr Turnbull will not listen to calls to look at the science rather than the political spin - IPCC; Al Gore etc see http: climatesceptics.com.au
4...not to listen to the science....Hello-o-o, who's not listening to the science Ms Wrong er Wong!
5...and to environmentalists who say we need a plan in place to reduce our carbon emissions... The Crazy environmentalists, yes. Ms. Wong, look at listentous.org.au. It is an anti ETS website set up by environmentalists - The Australian Environment Foundation - a different kind of environment group caring for both Australia and Australians.
1 We think it’s in the national interest to try and secure a global agreement we know Australia needs....Well, we all know, even you MS Wong, that a global agreement will never happen. And why do you think that Australia needs a Global Agreement?
2 Carbon Pollution - oxymoron.
3. I think it is disappointing that Mr Turnbull continues not to listen to business calls for certainty... Like you, Ms Wong, Mr Turnbull will not listen to calls to look at the science rather than the political spin - IPCC; Al Gore etc see http: climatesceptics.com.au
4...not to listen to the science....Hello-o-o, who's not listening to the science Ms Wrong er Wong!
5...and to environmentalists who say we need a plan in place to reduce our carbon emissions... The Crazy environmentalists, yes. Ms. Wong, look at listentous.org.au. It is an anti ETS website set up by environmentalists - The Australian Environment Foundation - a different kind of environment group caring for both Australia and Australians.
Tuesday, May 5, 2009
Rudd and Wong and their embarassing backdown
Kerry OB on the 7:30 report quotes Kevin 747 Rudd in the middle of the KFC (Kev's Financial Crisis)
"Penny Wong, it's only a few months ago in mid December that the Prime Minister said, and I'll quote, "It would be reckless and irresponsible for our economy and for our environment," to delay the introduction of your carbon emissions trading scheme."
and goes on to mention an embarassing U-turn.
Penny says inter-alia: ..."very significant global economic recession"... and ..."very substantial global economic crisis"
and between these she says: "...what we're trying to do is to shift Australia to a low-pollution economy."
A very noble aim, Penny, and I'm sure that there is not one Australian that would agree with a low-pollution economy. But, how do you pollute an economy?
Then MS Wong blows it! "....if you don't put in place a mechanism to reduce your carbon (dioxide) pollution..." Please explain?
Can you show us, Ms Wong, who didn't even do high school science, one bit of scientific evidence that shows carbon dioxide is pollution?
Then Kerry Oh-Oh-Oh- O'Brien says (timidly?) "Dare I suggest that this policy back flip has been framed as a political exercise for the next election?"
Another Hard-hitting interview from a hard hitting left wing journalist to a left wing politician on a left wing station that sponsors a left wing think tank AusSMC.
"Penny Wong, it's only a few months ago in mid December that the Prime Minister said, and I'll quote, "It would be reckless and irresponsible for our economy and for our environment," to delay the introduction of your carbon emissions trading scheme."
and goes on to mention an embarassing U-turn.
Penny says inter-alia: ..."very significant global economic recession"... and ..."very substantial global economic crisis"
and between these she says: "...what we're trying to do is to shift Australia to a low-pollution economy."
A very noble aim, Penny, and I'm sure that there is not one Australian that would agree with a low-pollution economy. But, how do you pollute an economy?
Then MS Wong blows it! "....if you don't put in place a mechanism to reduce your carbon (dioxide) pollution..." Please explain?
Can you show us, Ms Wong, who didn't even do high school science, one bit of scientific evidence that shows carbon dioxide is pollution?
Then Kerry Oh-Oh-Oh- O'Brien says (timidly?) "Dare I suggest that this policy back flip has been framed as a political exercise for the next election?"
Another Hard-hitting interview from a hard hitting left wing journalist to a left wing politician on a left wing station that sponsors a left wing think tank AusSMC.
Tuesday, April 14, 2009
MainstreamMedia at last looking at both sides?
In the Fairfax Paper - The Independant Weekly there is a report that challenges the "science" as quoted by Bob Brown, Penny Wong and, presumably, the IPCC. It talks about Professor Ian Plimer's new book "Heaven and Earth" and also the visit to Australia of Dr. Miklos Zagoni, Hungarian physicist, reviewer of the IPCC 2007 Assessment Report Four.
He is delivering a lecture in Mount Gambier on May 23 about how Greenhouse gases cannot cause climate change.
What the article fails to mention is that Dr. Zagoni and also David Stockwell are addressing a meeting at Newcastle University at 1pm tomorrow - 15/4/09. For details, call President "The Climate Sceptics" phone: (08) 87259561 or (08) 87235550.
Somehow, I think that the tide is turning.
The chair of the Australian Environment Foundation, Dr Jennifer Marohasy, was heard today on Sydney Radio.
What will happen to the IPCC and the "sell-out" scientists when the fraud is exposed?
He is delivering a lecture in Mount Gambier on May 23 about how Greenhouse gases cannot cause climate change.
What the article fails to mention is that Dr. Zagoni and also David Stockwell are addressing a meeting at Newcastle University at 1pm tomorrow - 15/4/09. For details, call President "The Climate Sceptics" phone: (08) 87259561 or (08) 87235550.
Somehow, I think that the tide is turning.
The chair of the Australian Environment Foundation, Dr Jennifer Marohasy, was heard today on Sydney Radio.
What will happen to the IPCC and the "sell-out" scientists when the fraud is exposed?
Thursday, March 19, 2009
"Co2 is Innocent!" Investors' Business Daily
In hot pursuit of Co2 - Investors Business Daily 12/3/09.
Some common sense (which is not all that common) in a crazed MSM world, IBD said:
Carol Browner, head of the EPA under the Clinton administration and climate czar for the current White House, is certain that the EPA will make the "endangerment finding" that will help move the process along. The way she talks about it, it sounds like it is now a mere formality the EPA will declare CO2 to be a pollutant.
That's no surprise. The political left for years has been chasing down CO2, which isn't a pollutant even if the Supreme Court says it can be regulated as such under the Clean Air Act. It's a naturally occurring gas that's necessary for life to continue. And it makes up less than four hundred parts per million (0.038%) by volume of our atmosphere.
And humankind's contribution to that small portion is just over 3%, meaning that whatever we do, our impact on greenhouse gas concentrations is virtually negligible. By extension, our impact on global warming is just as negligible.
Carol Browner (shouldn't that be Greener?) should also note that Australia's equivalent to her is our Ms Penny Wong. Although Penny Wong has introduced the Carbon (CO2) Pollution Reduction Scheme, her own office lists the six air pollutants in ambient air as:- carbon monoxide, lead, nitrogen dioxide, ozone, particles and sulfur dioxide. Note that there is no mention of carbon dioxide.
Some common sense (which is not all that common) in a crazed MSM world, IBD said:
Carol Browner, head of the EPA under the Clinton administration and climate czar for the current White House, is certain that the EPA will make the "endangerment finding" that will help move the process along. The way she talks about it, it sounds like it is now a mere formality the EPA will declare CO2 to be a pollutant.
That's no surprise. The political left for years has been chasing down CO2, which isn't a pollutant even if the Supreme Court says it can be regulated as such under the Clean Air Act. It's a naturally occurring gas that's necessary for life to continue. And it makes up less than four hundred parts per million (0.038%) by volume of our atmosphere.
And humankind's contribution to that small portion is just over 3%, meaning that whatever we do, our impact on greenhouse gas concentrations is virtually negligible. By extension, our impact on global warming is just as negligible.
Carol Browner (shouldn't that be Greener?) should also note that Australia's equivalent to her is our Ms Penny Wong. Although Penny Wong has introduced the Carbon (CO2) Pollution Reduction Scheme, her own office lists the six air pollutants in ambient air as:- carbon monoxide, lead, nitrogen dioxide, ozone, particles and sulfur dioxide. Note that there is no mention of carbon dioxide.
Sunday, February 22, 2009
Penny - Look at this
Steven Goddard has posted a graph showing CO2 rises lags behind temperature rise on Anthony Watts award winning blog Watts up With That?
Consider the earth 14,000 years ago. CO2 levels were around 200 ppm and temperatures, at 6C below present values, were rising fast. Now consider 30,000 years ago. CO2 levels were also around 200 ppm and temperatures were also about 6C below current levels, yet at that time the earth was cooling. Exactly the same CO2 and temperature levels as 14,000 years ago, but the opposite direction of temperature change. CO2 was not the driver.
As I said in my just previous post -
The lack of evidence showing CO2 to cause warming means Penny Wong has no excuse to introduce her new HAT (Hot Air Tax)
Consider the earth 14,000 years ago. CO2 levels were around 200 ppm and temperatures, at 6C below present values, were rising fast. Now consider 30,000 years ago. CO2 levels were also around 200 ppm and temperatures were also about 6C below current levels, yet at that time the earth was cooling. Exactly the same CO2 and temperature levels as 14,000 years ago, but the opposite direction of temperature change. CO2 was not the driver.
As I said in my just previous post -
The lack of evidence showing CO2 to cause warming means Penny Wong has no excuse to introduce her new HAT (Hot Air Tax)
Crash or burn as Penny's Wrong Tax faces collapse
From SMH dated 20/Feb/09 in an article by Phillip Coorey and Marian Wilkinson:
The Climate Change Minister, Penny Wong, will tell a business lunch in Sydney the global financial crisis was no excuse for backing away from implementing the (ETS) scheme next year.
The lack of evidence showing CO2 to cause warming means Penny Wong has no excuse to introduce her new HAT (Hot Air Tax)
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25047319-2702,00.html
In the above link dated 13 Feb 09, Wayne Swann asked the House of Representatives economics committee to inquire into "the choice of emissions trading as the central policy to reduce Australia's carbon pollution".
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/02/20/2496497.htm?section=australia
However, one week later, according to the government biased and pro-global warming biased ABC, Treasurer Wayne (I'm not sure what I'm doing) Swan has asked the House of Representatives Economics Committee to call off an investigation into emissions trading, saying it has become "politicised".His decision late yesterday came after a day of confusion about whether the Government would delay the introduction of the scheme.
Back to the first SMH story. Penny is quoted as saying: "Our Government remains undeterred in our determination to implement the [trading scheme] because we know it is the economically responsible course of action for Australia."
Well Ms Wong, it will ruin the economy. Queensland, for example has already stated that it will cost 370,000 jobs.Your own government's research arm has warned of thousands of job losses and a $1.8b hit to the economy.
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,23747571-3102,00.html
Do you honestly believe it is the economically responsible course of action for Australia? Get out of here!
The Climate Change Minister, Penny Wong, will tell a business lunch in Sydney the global financial crisis was no excuse for backing away from implementing the (ETS) scheme next year.
The lack of evidence showing CO2 to cause warming means Penny Wong has no excuse to introduce her new HAT (Hot Air Tax)
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25047319-2702,00.html
In the above link dated 13 Feb 09, Wayne Swann asked the House of Representatives economics committee to inquire into "the choice of emissions trading as the central policy to reduce Australia's carbon pollution".
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/02/20/2496497.htm?section=australia
However, one week later, according to the government biased and pro-global warming biased ABC, Treasurer Wayne (I'm not sure what I'm doing) Swan has asked the House of Representatives Economics Committee to call off an investigation into emissions trading, saying it has become "politicised".His decision late yesterday came after a day of confusion about whether the Government would delay the introduction of the scheme.
Back to the first SMH story. Penny is quoted as saying: "Our Government remains undeterred in our determination to implement the [trading scheme] because we know it is the economically responsible course of action for Australia."
Well Ms Wong, it will ruin the economy. Queensland, for example has already stated that it will cost 370,000 jobs.Your own government's research arm has warned of thousands of job losses and a $1.8b hit to the economy.
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,23747571-3102,00.html
Do you honestly believe it is the economically responsible course of action for Australia? Get out of here!
Saturday, February 21, 2009
Turnbull's 'Hamlet' stance on climate under fire
In a SMH article by Marion Wilkinson dated 20/2/09:
At a meeting of the Australian Business Economists forum in Sydney today, Senator Wong renewed her attack on the Opposition Leader, calling on him to support the Government's key climate change policy.
Well, surely, Senator Wrong should have to produce some science that shows CO2 causes Global Warming before introducing her HAT (HOT AIR TAX )- her ETS. As the IPCC has been trying, without success after 20 years, to show that CO2 causes warming, it will be hard for MS Wrong to prove it.
"The challenge will be for Mr Turnbull to stand up to the climate change sceptics in the coalition who do not want action taken on climate change", Senator Wong said.
Better yet, tell them to join the new Australian Party opposed to any form of Carbon Tax, the Carbon Sceptics Party. (See previous entry)
Asked about the chances of getting the policy through the Senate this year, Senator Wong said: "We will talk to all parties but ultimately, when this legislation gets to the senate, the opposition and all parties will have to decide whether they want Australia to start reducing its emissions from next year."
Let us hope and pray that the Senate has some sense and rejects her CRAP (Carbon Reduction Australia Policy) her ETS - her new HAT (See previous entry - Penny's new Hat.) Australia's already teetering after Kevin Rudd's Buy More Votes stimulation package.
To introduce an ETS would completely bankrupt the country.
At a meeting of the Australian Business Economists forum in Sydney today, Senator Wong renewed her attack on the Opposition Leader, calling on him to support the Government's key climate change policy.
Well, surely, Senator Wrong should have to produce some science that shows CO2 causes Global Warming before introducing her HAT (HOT AIR TAX )- her ETS. As the IPCC has been trying, without success after 20 years, to show that CO2 causes warming, it will be hard for MS Wrong to prove it.
"The challenge will be for Mr Turnbull to stand up to the climate change sceptics in the coalition who do not want action taken on climate change", Senator Wong said.
Better yet, tell them to join the new Australian Party opposed to any form of Carbon Tax, the Carbon Sceptics Party. (See previous entry)
Asked about the chances of getting the policy through the Senate this year, Senator Wong said: "We will talk to all parties but ultimately, when this legislation gets to the senate, the opposition and all parties will have to decide whether they want Australia to start reducing its emissions from next year."
Let us hope and pray that the Senate has some sense and rejects her CRAP (Carbon Reduction Australia Policy) her ETS - her new HAT (See previous entry - Penny's new Hat.) Australia's already teetering after Kevin Rudd's Buy More Votes stimulation package.
To introduce an ETS would completely bankrupt the country.
Saturday, February 7, 2009
Is Penny Wong or Right (4)
Update on my post "Is Penny Wong or Right (3) http://talbyv.blogspot.com/2009/01/is-penny-wong-or-right-3.html
Where I said:
And following on from my post Is "Penny Wong or Right (2)" where she said on 4BC radio "and... and... and I... to be honest with you.. think that most Australians do have a view that this (AGW) is real ..." a poll in the Australian newspaper as at today's date records: Are the heatwaves in Victoria and South Australia evidence of global warming?
Yes 8%
No 70%
Don’t know 23%
The Australian Labor Party's own News Network are running a Poll (Link in Title)
Is Global Warming to blame for the current heatwave in Australia?
Global Warming is a myth 94.1% Poll Updated 11am 8/2/09 with 128oo votes counted
No 3.1%
Yes 2.8%
So tell me, Penny, do you still or did you ever believe "that most Australians do have a view that this (AGW) is real
And Kevin 747, Wayne Swaan and Mr Tanner: Do you think it will be wise to intruduce a crippling carbon dioxide tax?
Where I said:
And following on from my post Is "Penny Wong or Right (2)" where she said on 4BC radio "and... and... and I... to be honest with you.. think that most Australians do have a view that this (AGW) is real ..." a poll in the Australian newspaper as at today's date records: Are the heatwaves in Victoria and South Australia evidence of global warming?
Yes 8%
No 70%
Don’t know 23%
The Australian Labor Party's own News Network are running a Poll (Link in Title)
Is Global Warming to blame for the current heatwave in Australia?
Global Warming is a myth 94.1% Poll Updated 11am 8/2/09 with 128oo votes counted
No 3.1%
Yes 2.8%
So tell me, Penny, do you still or did you ever believe "that most Australians do have a view that this (AGW) is real
And Kevin 747, Wayne Swaan and Mr Tanner: Do you think it will be wise to intruduce a crippling carbon dioxide tax?
Tuesday, February 3, 2009
Heads I win, tails you lose, Penny Wrong
Simon on Australian Climate Madness has pointed out that:
As inevitable as night follows day, scientists have claimed that the worst winter snow in London for thirty years is consistent with climate change. The UK's Telegraph newspaper reports this under the faintly amusing headline:
Meanwhile, at the same time, our own dearly beloved Ms Penny Wong has said that the heatwave gripping south-east Australia is part of what scientists predicted would happen.
http://talbyv.blogspot.com/2009/01/is-penny-wong-or-right-3.html
At the time that she said that (28/1/09) ,the BOM issued a chart that showed the more than two thirds of Australia was experiencing lower than normal temperatures. Most of the Northern Hemisphere was also experiencing record lows.
Can it be - honto kana - that record low temperatures indicate global warming?
When will these clowns apologise?
As inevitable as night follows day, scientists have claimed that the worst winter snow in London for thirty years is consistent with climate change. The UK's Telegraph newspaper reports this under the faintly amusing headline:
Snow is consistent with global warming, say scientists
Meanwhile, at the same time, our own dearly beloved Ms Penny Wong has said that the heatwave gripping south-east Australia is part of what scientists predicted would happen.
http://talbyv.blogspot.com/2009/01/is-penny-wong-or-right-3.html
At the time that she said that (28/1/09) ,the BOM issued a chart that showed the more than two thirds of Australia was experiencing lower than normal temperatures. Most of the Northern Hemisphere was also experiencing record lows.
Can it be - honto kana - that record low temperatures indicate global warming?
When will these clowns apologise?
Saturday, January 31, 2009
Japanese Report Disputes Human Cause for Global Warming
From Daily Tech report by Michael Asher - January 14, 2009
"The Japanese Society of Energy and Resources (JSER) has published a new study on the causes of Global Warming. Entitled, "Global warming: What is the scientific truth?”, the report highlights the differing views of five prominent Japanese scientists.
All but one of the scientists disagreed that global warming is the result of human activity."
I wonder if James Hansen, Al Gore and Penny Wong would call this a consensus?
"The Japanese Society of Energy and Resources (JSER) has published a new study on the causes of Global Warming. Entitled, "Global warming: What is the scientific truth?”, the report highlights the differing views of five prominent Japanese scientists.
All but one of the scientists disagreed that global warming is the result of human activity."
I wonder if James Hansen, Al Gore and Penny Wong would call this a consensus?
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