In an item on National Post by Peter Foster(one of the good guys):
"Times Square also last year witnessed the success of those who wish to dim the lights on such despised materialism. Coca Cola agreed to flip the switch on its thirty-ton “electro kinetic sculpture” during Earth Hour, that exercise in social and corporate pressure, organized by the World Wildlife Fund, during which people wander around in the dark for the sake of the planet."
I hope they realise that when Mr Obama declares CO2 a dangerous pollutant, they will have to take the fizzzz out of coke!
"The Heartland Institute stresses that “No corporate dollars or sponsorships earmarked for the event were solicited or accepted.” That proviso is necessary to forestall braying NGOs and members of the policy establishment who claim that skeptics are in the pay of Big Oil or Big Coal."
Saturday, March 7, 2009
Who's Dumb? Dykstra is dumber
On the strangely labelled Mother Nature Network, Peter Dykstra shows his dumbness with a post titled:Media Mayhem: Deny-a-palooza. Some quotes:
"Yeah, folks, there's a chance climate change isn't for real. There's always a chance. "
Well, that's your first mistake, Peter. Climate does change, climate has been changing all through the course of history.
"There's always a chance that the mounting evidence, the computer models and long-term forecasts are wrong."
That's right, Peter. The computer models are wrong. In fact, if they start at a previous date in time, they can't even predict the present.
"In America, climate change science and climate change politics are two different things. Two decades of a one-sided torrent of peer-reviewed data hasn’t changed that."
Right, the IPCC is the reigning king of Climate science politics that has issued two decades of a one-sided torrent of peer-reviewed data.
Now here's a thought, Peter. Why don't you get along to the 2009 International Conference on Climate Change in New York and reduce your ignorance?
"Yeah, folks, there's a chance climate change isn't for real. There's always a chance. "
Well, that's your first mistake, Peter. Climate does change, climate has been changing all through the course of history.
"There's always a chance that the mounting evidence, the computer models and long-term forecasts are wrong."
That's right, Peter. The computer models are wrong. In fact, if they start at a previous date in time, they can't even predict the present.
"In America, climate change science and climate change politics are two different things. Two decades of a one-sided torrent of peer-reviewed data hasn’t changed that."
Right, the IPCC is the reigning king of Climate science politics that has issued two decades of a one-sided torrent of peer-reviewed data.
Now here's a thought, Peter. Why don't you get along to the 2009 International Conference on Climate Change in New York and reduce your ignorance?
Friday, March 6, 2009
Climate Change Denial - claim Idiots on FaceBook!
From: Spiked-online dated Wednesday 4 March 2009 by Brendan O’Neill
The idea that ‘climate change denial’ is a psychological disorder – the product of a spiteful, wilful or simply in-built neural inability to face up to the catastrophe of global warming – is becoming more and more popular amongst green-leaning activists and academics.
Insults from a group of people who unfortunatley haven't followed the latest science!
This weekend, the University of West England is hosting a major conference on climate change denial. The organisers say the conference will explore how ‘denial’ is a product of both ‘addiction and consumption’ and is the ‘consequence of living in a perverse culture which encourages collusion, complacency and irresponsibility’
Get real!
The idea that ‘climate change denial’ is a psychological disorder – the product of a spiteful, wilful or simply in-built neural inability to face up to the catastrophe of global warming – is becoming more and more popular amongst green-leaning activists and academics.
Insults from a group of people who unfortunatley haven't followed the latest science!
This weekend, the University of West England is hosting a major conference on climate change denial. The organisers say the conference will explore how ‘denial’ is a product of both ‘addiction and consumption’ and is the ‘consequence of living in a perverse culture which encourages collusion, complacency and irresponsibility’
Get real!
Andes Glaciers Advancing; Global Warming is over
On the American Daily web site, an opinion piece by Gregory J Romano who has an MS in Chemistry. Some extracts:
"So when I arrived a day later in the city of Huaraz in the Callejon de Huaylas, I was curious to see if in fact the glaciers had retreated and if the snow cover was reduced from prior years. What I learned was in fact, just the opposite—from my own photographs and from the testimonies of the people with whom I spoke over the next two weeks.
Despite the ‘consensus’ of scientists that we are told agree that global warming is a fact, I observed more snow on the mountains, the glaciers had seemingly grown in size, and the climate had become noticeably cooler. The locals—virtually all of them farmers—confirmed this."
"Murdock quotes from a letter written to British members of Parliament last October from Imperial College of London astrophysicist and long range forecaster Piers Corbyn: “Global Warming is over, and Global Warming Theory has failed. There is no evidence that CO2 drives world temperatures or any consequent climate change…According to official data in every year since 1998, world temperatures have been colder than that year, yet CO2 has been rising rapidly.”
He adds, “That evening, as the House of Commons debated legislation on so-called ‘global warming,’ October snow fell in London for the first time since 1922.”
"So when I arrived a day later in the city of Huaraz in the Callejon de Huaylas, I was curious to see if in fact the glaciers had retreated and if the snow cover was reduced from prior years. What I learned was in fact, just the opposite—from my own photographs and from the testimonies of the people with whom I spoke over the next two weeks.
Despite the ‘consensus’ of scientists that we are told agree that global warming is a fact, I observed more snow on the mountains, the glaciers had seemingly grown in size, and the climate had become noticeably cooler. The locals—virtually all of them farmers—confirmed this."
"Murdock quotes from a letter written to British members of Parliament last October from Imperial College of London astrophysicist and long range forecaster Piers Corbyn: “Global Warming is over, and Global Warming Theory has failed. There is no evidence that CO2 drives world temperatures or any consequent climate change…According to official data in every year since 1998, world temperatures have been colder than that year, yet CO2 has been rising rapidly.”
He adds, “That evening, as the House of Commons debated legislation on so-called ‘global warming,’ October snow fell in London for the first time since 1922.”
Gore is wrong - Speaker says
Thomas Friedman, a New York Times journalist and three-time winner of the Pulitzer Prize spoke Wednesday at Ball State University.
Two years ago, when Friedman met Al Gore, he told the former vice president he should write a newspaper column with the following lead: "I'm sorry. I apologize. "
This is the only thing Mr. Friedman got right. He also said:
Mother Nature is a lot like us. If your temperature rises just a few degrees, you get sick. If it rises a few more degrees, you go to the hospital.
That may be so, Tommy, but historical records show that during the Medieval Warm period when the world was warmer than today there was a period of great wealth. So, although you say: If your temperature rises just a few degrees, you get sick, if the world's temperature rises just a few degrees, the world gets better!
Two years ago, when Friedman met Al Gore, he told the former vice president he should write a newspaper column with the following lead: "I'm sorry. I apologize. "
This is the only thing Mr. Friedman got right. He also said:
Mother Nature is a lot like us. If your temperature rises just a few degrees, you get sick. If it rises a few more degrees, you go to the hospital.
That may be so, Tommy, but historical records show that during the Medieval Warm period when the world was warmer than today there was a period of great wealth. So, although you say: If your temperature rises just a few degrees, you get sick, if the world's temperature rises just a few degrees, the world gets better!
Thursday, March 5, 2009
NZ Prime Minister awake to Climate Change Hoax?
On the Scoop NZ Web site, NZ Prime Minister John Key is quoted as saying to Investigate Magazine that he wanted..
"to have flexibility so that if the science deteriorates and the climate change sceptics are right we have an ability to alter the impact on our economy".
Well, Mr Key, it's too late. The science has deteriorated and the climate change sceptics are right.
“As a result of learning of the Prime Minister’s comments, Greenpeace, one of the worlds leading NGOs in the climate change area, advised that it would not be participating further in the ETS Review Select Committee."
What a bonus. Not having to deal with the radical, human-hating Greens!
Hey, Mr Key, Looks like you are moving in the right direction! How about jumping ship and forming a NZ chapter of the (Australian) Climate Sceptics party. They can offer you (and any other person from outside Australia) an Associate Membership.
http://www.climatesceptics.com.au/
"to have flexibility so that if the science deteriorates and the climate change sceptics are right we have an ability to alter the impact on our economy".
Well, Mr Key, it's too late. The science has deteriorated and the climate change sceptics are right.
“As a result of learning of the Prime Minister’s comments, Greenpeace, one of the worlds leading NGOs in the climate change area, advised that it would not be participating further in the ETS Review Select Committee."
What a bonus. Not having to deal with the radical, human-hating Greens!
Hey, Mr Key, Looks like you are moving in the right direction! How about jumping ship and forming a NZ chapter of the (Australian) Climate Sceptics party. They can offer you (and any other person from outside Australia) an Associate Membership.
http://www.climatesceptics.com.au/
Wednesday, March 4, 2009
AGW - The semantics of denial
On George Monbiot's blog on the UK Guardian Web site:
They claim they're sceptics – but when any explanation will do as long as it backs their theories, 'climate change deniers' is the only term good enough......I use the term deniers not because I am seeking to make a link with the Holocaust, but because I can't think what else to call them. They describe themselves as sceptics, but this is plainly wrong, as they will believe any old rubbish that suits their cause.
Well, George, you are wrong, sorry but you are.
The deniers are the promoters of AGW. Science has moved on. They have had twenty years and spent trillions trying to show that CO2 causes global warming and have not yet done so. (Because they cannot!)
They have denied the fact that ice core studies show that a rise in global temperature CAUSES a rises in atmospheric CO2 and not the other way around. They say that warming will cause all kinds of gloom and doom; denying the historic proof that warming during the MWP was beneficial to mankind; great wealth in Europe; farming in Greenland where the now is permafrost etc etc..
So, George, you see, we are not the deniers, they are! THEY will believe any old rubbish that suits their cause.
They claim they're sceptics – but when any explanation will do as long as it backs their theories, 'climate change deniers' is the only term good enough......I use the term deniers not because I am seeking to make a link with the Holocaust, but because I can't think what else to call them. They describe themselves as sceptics, but this is plainly wrong, as they will believe any old rubbish that suits their cause.
Well, George, you are wrong, sorry but you are.
The deniers are the promoters of AGW. Science has moved on. They have had twenty years and spent trillions trying to show that CO2 causes global warming and have not yet done so. (Because they cannot!)
They have denied the fact that ice core studies show that a rise in global temperature CAUSES a rises in atmospheric CO2 and not the other way around. They say that warming will cause all kinds of gloom and doom; denying the historic proof that warming during the MWP was beneficial to mankind; great wealth in Europe; farming in Greenland where the now is permafrost etc etc..
So, George, you see, we are not the deniers, they are! THEY will believe any old rubbish that suits their cause.
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